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Concealed pistol permit requirements?

mcflyfyter

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Today I took the state application to the Lawrence county sherrifs office, and was told it was not acceptable. I got the application from the state website.

http://sdsos.gov/adminservices/adminpdfs/PistolPermitApplication20110211HandWritten Form.pdf

They say I have to submit their form which asks for (3) local references. I have not found a requirement for references anywhere. Does anyone have any ideas about this? I am thinking about writing "Not required per SDCL23-7-7.1". I wonder how far that would get me.
 

XDSTEEL

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references ???

They say I have to submit their form which asks for (3) local references. I have not found a requirement for references anywhere. Does anyone have any ideas about this? I am thinking about writing "Not required per SDCL23-7-7.1". I wonder how far that would get me.

LOL. Funny I JUST applied for my Permit and received the Temp today! No local references required. Look at you County Laws. They may have something in their own provision that the sheriff has to take the references for permit app. If so then it is illegal because South Dakota has preemption. IANAL
 

XDSTEEL

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Digging

Did some digging for ya.

" 23-7-8.1. Form and contents of permit. The form of the permit to carry a concealed pistol shall be prescribed by the secretary of state pursuant to § 23-7-8. The permit shall list the applicant's name, address, and the expiration date of the permit. The holder of a permit may carry a concealed pistol anywhere in South Dakota except in any licensed on-sale malt beverage or alcoholic beverage establishment that derives over one-half of its total income from the sale of malt or alcoholic beverages. Nothing in this section prevents law enforcement officers, parole agents, security guards employed on the premises, and other public officials with the written permission of the sheriff from carrying concealed weapons in the performance of their duties or prevents home or business owners from carrying concealed weapons on their property pursuant to § 22-14-11.

and....

23-7-8. Application for permit--Form and contents--Distribution and retention of copies--Issuance of official permit. The application for a permit to carry a concealed pistol shall be filed either electronically or in triplicate on a form prescribed by the secretary of state. The application shall require the applicant's complete name, address, occupation, place and date of birth, physical description, a statement that the applicant has never pled guilty to, nolo contendere to, or been convicted of a crime of violence, a sworn statement that the information on the application is true and correct, and the applicant's signature. If filed in triplicate, the original shall be delivered to the applicant as the temporary permit, the duplicate shall within seven days be sent by first class mail to the secretary of state who shall issue the official permit, and the triplicate shall be preserved for four years by the authority issuing the permit. If the application is filed electronically, two copies shall be made and each shall be signed by the applicant. One copy shall be delivered to the applicant as the temporary permit, and the other copy shall be preserved for four years by the authority issuing the permit."

Soo nothing that I can find that says you NEED those refrences.

All found on South Dakota Codfied Law Website. http://legis.state.sd.us/statutes/DisplayStatute.aspx?Statute=23-7&Type=Statute
 

mcflyfyter

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Thanks, I will be submitting my application in a few days. It this point I don't know if I should;

a) just have a chat with the sheriff,
b) submit application filled out with "References not required Per.........",
c) submit application as noted in option b, but also attach a copy of the state application along with the written law.

I think c is a little too much. Between a and b, I am leaning towards a. The only reason I don't like a is because I am not a "people" person, and just don't do well being friendly with people like that. What would you do?
 

XDSTEEL

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updat2

Hopefully you read my PM that I sent you and everthing is going well. let me know if you need some more help
 
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