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CPL V. WDL

CitizenJohn

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I haven’t visited the site for a while, so never mind if this subject has already been covered.

If you are contemplating making a change to your WDL (renewal, addition, etc.), you might find this info useful: Late in 2018, the WA DOL started changing WDL ID numbers from the system of using letters of the licensees last name and a number derived by subtracting their birth year from 100 and then adding some other letters/numbers to a “so called” more secure numbering system. Last week I had a “corrective lenses” restriction removed from my WDL and my WDL number was changed to the new numbering system. Problem being that my WA CPL has my previous WDL number on it. Wondering what the consequences of that would be if I had to provide my license to law enforcement, I called the Clark County Sheriff’s office. I was told that I had two options: Pay them $10.00 for a new CPL with the new WDL number or just wait until I renewed my CPL. It was explained to me that the old and new WDL numbers were cross referenced in “the system” and that it wouldn’t present a problem for me. Forever the skeptic, I paid the $10.00 and got the updated CPL. I also have a Oregon CHL but thankfully, they don’t include such numbers on the license.
 

solus

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I haven’t visited the site for a while, so never mind if this subject has already been covered.

If you are contemplating making a change to your WDL (renewal, addition, etc.), you might find this info useful: Late in 2018, the WA DOL started changing WDL ID numbers from the system of using letters of the licensees last name and a number derived by subtracting their birth year from 100 and then adding some other letters/numbers to a “so called” more secure numbering system. Last week I had a “corrective lenses” restriction removed from my WDL and my WDL number was changed to the new numbering system. Problem being that my WA CPL has my previous WDL number on it. Wondering what the consequences of that would be if I had to provide my license to law enforcement, I called the Clark County Sheriff’s office. I was told that I had two options: Pay them $10.00 for a new CPL with the new WDL number or just wait until I renewed my CPL. It was explained to me that the old and new WDL numbers were cross referenced in “the system” and that it wouldn’t present a problem for me. Forever the skeptic, I paid the $10.00 and got the updated CPL. I also have a Oregon CHL but thankfully, they don’t include such numbers on the license.
So citizenjohn, where, within the WA RCWs or WA Admin codes, did you obtain this 2018 numbering scheme from ?

further, depending on renewal due date of your CPL, skepticism perceptions notwithstanding, does it truly matter if you're open carrying, despite mandatory vehicle restrictions, in the evergreen state which numbering scheme is in place?

ps: iaw
RCW 9.41.070
Concealed pistol license—Application—Fee—Renewal. (Effective until July 1, 2021.)

(6) The nonrefundable fee for the renewal of such license shall be thirty-two dollars

(9)(a) A licensee may renew a license if the licensee applies for renewal within ninety days before or after the expiration date of the license. A license so renewed shall take effect on the expiration date of the prior license. A licensee renewing after the expiration date of the license must pay a late renewal penalty of ten dollars in addition to the renewal fee specified in subsection (6) of this section.

there is nothing in RCW cpl guidance for a $10 payment !
 
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CitizenJohn

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Clark County, WA
So citizenjohn, where, within the WA RCWs or WA Admin codes, did you obtain this 2018 numbering scheme from ?

further, depending on renewal due date of your CPL, skepticism perceptions notwithstanding, does it truly matter if you're open carrying, despite mandatory vehicle restrictions, in the evergreen state which numbering scheme is in place?

ps: iaw
RCW 9.41.070
Concealed pistol license—Application—Fee—Renewal. (Effective until July 1, 2021.)

(6) The nonrefundable fee for the renewal of such license shall be thirty-two dollars

(9)(a) A licensee may renew a license if the licensee applies for renewal within ninety days before or after the expiration date of the license. A license so renewed shall take effect on the expiration date of the prior license. A licensee renewing after the expiration date of the license must pay a late renewal penalty of ten dollars in addition to the renewal fee specified in subsection (6) of this section.

there is nothing in RCW cpl guidance for a $10 payment !
The $10.00 is a "replacement" fee, which applies in my example. My "cite" is page 2 of 2 on the current WA DOL Concealed Pistol Licence application form.
As far as the old numbering scheme goes, I deduced it from personal observation over a span of 40+ years and when I talked to a rep at the Olympia headquarters of the DOL concerning this matter. IE, If your name is Eli J. Smiths and you were born in 1951, your number would be SMITHEJ49 with a couple of other number/letter add-ons.
But ... The takeaway from my story is just a heads up for anybody that might encounter this wrinkle. Just pointing out an unexpected encounter.
 

solus

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The $10.00 is a "replacement" fee, which applies in my example. My "cite" is page 2 of 2 on the current WA DOL Concealed Pistol Licence application form.
As far as the old numbering scheme goes, I deduced it from personal observation over a span of 40+ years and when I talked to a rep at the Olympia headquarters of the DOL concerning this matter. IE, If your name is Eli J. Smiths and you were born in 1951, your number would be SMITHEJ49 with a couple of other number/letter add-ons.
But ... The takeaway from my story is just a heads up for anybody that might encounter this wrinkle. Just pointing out an unexpected encounter.
well, citizenjohn, i can see where your personal deduction as explained by hearsay & unsubstantiated rhetoric coupled "with a couple of other number/letter add-ons" is certainly an inviolable and viable explaination!

as for cpl replacement fee guidance...websites are especially unreliable but truth be told, according to wa rcw 9.41.070(7) the fee is for lost or damaged cpls only...not for "cuz" rational per se.

further, since you profess this earthshaking event re numbering of citizen's wa cpl began in 2018, again w/absolutely no reference to a cite, surely some WA citizen holding a cpl would have been significantly been affected and mentioned it on WA's firearm's or forum sometime over the last two plus years.

finally and most significantly IMHO...my WA CPL's number doesn't come close to your whimsical numbering scheme!
 

solus

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Urban dictionary bonnie...

Bonnie's are one of a kind and truly make you feel blessed if you have one in your life!!!
 
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