seveer13
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Gundude wrote:
Gundude wrote:
Yes you are correct "YOU DO NOT HAVE TO", and that is a great youtube video as well I think everyone on the planet should have to watch it...I sincerely believe that in my heart. That being said...it does not eliminate the fact you may be arrested for obstruction and or disorderly conduct, you are innocent if you are legal, but at what cost? Arrest, Bail, Impound, seizure, Lawyer,court fees(Guilty or not), then there is the board review on your license and permit, which you may bring an attorney but is not decided by a jury its a board made up of state representitives in the Nashville system who have to prove that they are effective in enforcement permit reviews which opens the results up to their own personal moral ethics and their own personal point of view on the matter. The fact you are legal will mean nothing because if you read the TN laws on permits in more than one area on the full application said it may be revoked at any time... So if your legal, declaring the weapon and completing the traffic stop is in fact in your best interest. Is it constitutionally correct NO and its unfair and if you have more money or connections then the average laymen you just might prove you were correct and have all charges dropped and still lose your permit...You may keep it but you still paid for an Attorney and those great and unconstitutional court fees you still pay when found innocent...So again its just easier to comply admit and move on with your day, Do not embelish add on to or say anything further than "Officer before we go any further i need to inform you I have a permit to carry concealed and I am armed at this moment" Then follow directions and if you feel you were legally violated take it up with a lawyer or file complaints later and see where they take you...Wow I babbled on sorry about that, Its just frustrating to see people complicate their lives at a meaningless moment when they have larger options after the fact:banghead:My Grandfather has always told me "Always fight the good fight, but choose when and where your battles take place, so that you keep the advantage..."seveer13 wrote:It is my understanding, and please correct me with verifiable facts, that you may be charged with obstruction at the LEO's discretion for not disclosing the fact you are carrying. I also know that for a fact your Permit may be revoked based on a review hearing that can be prompted by any LEO. This is what I was informed of when I questioned this myself. Although I did cooperate fully and disclosed I was wondering as well, sadly I was told it all depends on the LEO and how your behavior comes across to them...
You do not have to talk to the police. Just say, "I decline to answer any questions without legal advice, and I don't consent to any unconstitutional searches." Then close your pie hole. Watch this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc