carracer
Regular Member
I'm hearing rumors of serious frisking, opening coats and lifting of shirts by Nampa police before being allowed entry to events in this public facility. Can anyone substantiate this?
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ford" Idaho Center Nampa"
- Thread starter carracer
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No personal knowledge, but they do seem to have vented authorization to forbide entry with guns.
http://www.fordidahocenter.com/GuestServices/Policies/
http://www.fordidahocenter.com/GuestServices/Policies/
BigDeeeeeeee
Regular Member
Isn't it owned by the city?
TITLE 18
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 33
FIREARMS, EXPLOSIVES AND OTHER DEADLY WEAPONS
18-3302J. Preemption of firearms regulation. (1) The legislature finds that uniform laws regulating firearms are necessary to protect the individual citizen's right to bear arms guaranteed by amendment 2 of the United States Constitution and section 11, article I of the constitution of the state of Idaho. It is the legislature's intent to wholly occupy the field of firearms regulation within this state.
(2) Except as expressly authorized by state statute, no county, city, agency, board or any other political subdivision of this state may adopt or enforce any law, rule, regulation, or ordinance which regulates in any manner the sale, acquisition, transfer, ownership, possession, transportation, carrying or storage of firearms or any element relating to firearms and components thereof, including ammunition.
(3) A county may adopt ordinances to regulate, restrict or prohibit the discharge of firearms within its boundaries. Ordinances adopted under this subsection may not apply to or affect:
(a) A person discharging a firearm in the lawful defense of person or persons or property;
(b) A person discharging a firearm in the course of lawful hunting;
(c) A landowner and guests of the landowner discharging a firearm, when the discharge will not endanger persons or property;
(d) A person lawfully discharging a firearm on a sport shooting range as defined in section 55-2604, Idaho Code; or
(e) A person discharging a firearm in the course of target shooting on public land if the discharge will not endanger persons or property.
(4) A city may adopt ordinances to regulate, restrict or prohibit the discharge of firearms within its boundaries. Ordinances adopted under this subsection may not apply to or affect:
(a) A person discharging a firearm in the lawful defense of person or persons or property; or
(b) A person lawfully discharging a firearm on a sport shooting range as defined in section 55-2604, Idaho Code.
(5) This section shall not be construed to affect:
(a) The authority of the department of fish and game to make rules or regulations concerning the management of any wildlife of this state, as set forth in section 36-104, Idaho Code;
(b) The authority of counties and cities to regulate the location and construction of sport shooting ranges, subject to the limitations contained in chapter 26, title 55, Idaho Code; and
(c) The authority of the board of regents of the university of Idaho, the boards of trustees of the state colleges and universities, the board of professional-technical education and the boards of trustees of each of the community colleges established under chapter 21, title 33, Idaho Code, to regulate in matters relating to firearms.
(6) The provisions of this section are hereby declared to be severable. And if any provision is declared invalid for any reason, such declaration shall not affect the validity of the remaining portions of this section.
History:
[18-3302J, added 2008, ch. 304, sec. 2, p. 845.]
TITLE 18
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 33
FIREARMS, EXPLOSIVES AND OTHER DEADLY WEAPONS
18-3302J. Preemption of firearms regulation. (1) The legislature finds that uniform laws regulating firearms are necessary to protect the individual citizen's right to bear arms guaranteed by amendment 2 of the United States Constitution and section 11, article I of the constitution of the state of Idaho. It is the legislature's intent to wholly occupy the field of firearms regulation within this state.
(2) Except as expressly authorized by state statute, no county, city, agency, board or any other political subdivision of this state may adopt or enforce any law, rule, regulation, or ordinance which regulates in any manner the sale, acquisition, transfer, ownership, possession, transportation, carrying or storage of firearms or any element relating to firearms and components thereof, including ammunition.
(3) A county may adopt ordinances to regulate, restrict or prohibit the discharge of firearms within its boundaries. Ordinances adopted under this subsection may not apply to or affect:
(a) A person discharging a firearm in the lawful defense of person or persons or property;
(b) A person discharging a firearm in the course of lawful hunting;
(c) A landowner and guests of the landowner discharging a firearm, when the discharge will not endanger persons or property;
(d) A person lawfully discharging a firearm on a sport shooting range as defined in section 55-2604, Idaho Code; or
(e) A person discharging a firearm in the course of target shooting on public land if the discharge will not endanger persons or property.
(4) A city may adopt ordinances to regulate, restrict or prohibit the discharge of firearms within its boundaries. Ordinances adopted under this subsection may not apply to or affect:
(a) A person discharging a firearm in the lawful defense of person or persons or property; or
(b) A person lawfully discharging a firearm on a sport shooting range as defined in section 55-2604, Idaho Code.
(5) This section shall not be construed to affect:
(a) The authority of the department of fish and game to make rules or regulations concerning the management of any wildlife of this state, as set forth in section 36-104, Idaho Code;
(b) The authority of counties and cities to regulate the location and construction of sport shooting ranges, subject to the limitations contained in chapter 26, title 55, Idaho Code; and
(c) The authority of the board of regents of the university of Idaho, the boards of trustees of the state colleges and universities, the board of professional-technical education and the boards of trustees of each of the community colleges established under chapter 21, title 33, Idaho Code, to regulate in matters relating to firearms.
(6) The provisions of this section are hereby declared to be severable. And if any provision is declared invalid for any reason, such declaration shall not affect the validity of the remaining portions of this section.
History:
[18-3302J, added 2008, ch. 304, sec. 2, p. 845.]
City officials announced, during a specially convened session of the Nampa City Council on the floor of the Idaho Center, that Treasure Valley Ford dealers had signed a $1 million sponsorship contract.
"We're here as a city to acknowledge the contract and approve the contract," said Nampa Mayor Bob Henry. (Jan 14, 2014)
http://www.boiseweekly.com/CityDesk/archives/2014/01/14/its-now-called-the-idaho-idaho-center
OC Freedom
Regular Member
I see this Idaho center issue as a slippery slop to firearm restrictions by circumventing state preemption of gun laws. I will explain my thought on this towards the end of my rant.
My wife and I went to the Idaho center on the 8th of Feb. to attend the home show. We paid the admission, handed the tickets to the gal at the entrance and the next thing I'm hearing is that they must search my wife's purse. I step forward and proceed to inform them " No way in hell are you searching her purse", at this time they explain that its to check for food and weapons. I proceed to try to educate the staff in the fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and Idaho's Constitution that parallels the 4th Amendment. I might as well be speaking to the wall. I suspect these folks have no clue as to what the Constitution is by the glazing of their eyes. Then I present them with a trifold of Idaho gun laws and they responded like it was kryptonite. At this point, my explaining to them that they are violating state law just fell on deaf ears. Before my wife and I took our leave we insisted on a refund.
I contacted the Mayors office and I also spoke to the Director of the Idaho Center. The claim is that since the City of Nampa has a contract with the company that manages the Idaho center it becomes a private property right issue. It would be like a renter of an apartment having the same rights as a homeowner. Here is the problem I see with this analogy as follows.
1) This is city owned property (public) not private.
2) I cannot find any law and the Mayors office cannot provide me with any law that overrides 18-3302 on this subject.
3) This in my opinion opens the door for any public property to be awarded with a contract with a management company so restrictions can be placed upon said property. This is the slippery slop that I see.
The only way I see this remedied is through the courts or to get our legislators to amend the code 18-3302 to prohibit this activity.
My wife and I went to the Idaho center on the 8th of Feb. to attend the home show. We paid the admission, handed the tickets to the gal at the entrance and the next thing I'm hearing is that they must search my wife's purse. I step forward and proceed to inform them " No way in hell are you searching her purse", at this time they explain that its to check for food and weapons. I proceed to try to educate the staff in the fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and Idaho's Constitution that parallels the 4th Amendment. I might as well be speaking to the wall. I suspect these folks have no clue as to what the Constitution is by the glazing of their eyes. Then I present them with a trifold of Idaho gun laws and they responded like it was kryptonite. At this point, my explaining to them that they are violating state law just fell on deaf ears. Before my wife and I took our leave we insisted on a refund.
I contacted the Mayors office and I also spoke to the Director of the Idaho Center. The claim is that since the City of Nampa has a contract with the company that manages the Idaho center it becomes a private property right issue. It would be like a renter of an apartment having the same rights as a homeowner. Here is the problem I see with this analogy as follows.
1) This is city owned property (public) not private.
2) I cannot find any law and the Mayors office cannot provide me with any law that overrides 18-3302 on this subject.
3) This in my opinion opens the door for any public property to be awarded with a contract with a management company so restrictions can be placed upon said property. This is the slippery slop that I see.
The only way I see this remedied is through the courts or to get our legislators to amend the code 18-3302 to prohibit this activity.
My layman's understanding of situations like this is that the "venue" (group renting the facility) may impose special rules, but that the municipality may not make such a condition of the rental agreement, nor make it standard policy to all events held there.