Great Win at the U.S. Supreme Court for the Second Amendment!

[phil1979]

Perhaps there will soon be new successful challenges to existing infringements now that the new standard is the historical context.

Second Amendment Supreme Court Decision Victory! © 2022 Phillip Evans

On June 23rd, 2022, the U.S. Supreme Court issued an opinion on the side of liberty in NEW YORK STATE RIFLE & PISTOL ASSOCIATION, INC., ET A...

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[solus]

phil, might wish to check the forum's thread celebrating the USSC opinion......here:

New York losses

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf Read it for yourself. We too agree, and now hold, consistent with Heller and McDonald, that the Second and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual’s right to carry a hand-gun for self-defense outside the home.

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[pkbites]

I’ll bet NYC, Hawaii, and other jurisdictions will normalize CCW kicking and screaming and it will take other court actions and enforcement to get them to obey the Constitution.

Didn’t read the entire opinion. Why was CCW only addressed and not open carry?

 

[BB62]

I’ll bet NYC, Hawaii, and other jurisdictions will normalize CCW kicking and screaming and it will take other court actions and enforcement to get them to obey the Constitution.

Didn’t read the entire opinion. Why was CCW only addressed and not open carry?

I think you need to read the entire opinion. Open carry is at least MENTIONED, even if not fully addressed.

How can one be fully informed unless one reads the entire opinion?

 

[WalkingWolf]

Look for 16+ hours training requirement, and very high processing fees. Gouging by some trainers once the legislatures get around to writing new laws. This will not be immediate, courts will set deadlines the same as they did in Illinois. One of the judges concurring opinion opened the door for excessive CCW regulation. I was very disappointed.

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

When the Young vs Hawaii is reviewed and a new decision handed down the how climate of open carry could change.

 

[WalkingWolf]

When the Young vs Hawaii is reviewed and a new decision handed down the how climate of open carry could change.

This is what the 2A is all about, derringers did not come into play until well after the constitution was ratified. Before this handguns were too large to conceal, they were carried in the belt openly. It seems SCOTUS is scared to take on an open carry case, it would bring down the house of cards. States would be tripping over themselves to make CCW more accessible because of their fear of OC. A clear decision would also further bankrupt NRA.

 

[JTHunter2]

Look for 16+ hours training requirement, and very high processing fees. Gouging by some trainers once the legislatures get around to writing new laws. This will not be immediate, courts will set deadlines the same as they did in Illinois. One of the judges concurring opinion opened the door for excessive CCW regulation. I was very disappointed.

Oh, just like IL-ANNOY. A "non-refundable" application fee PLUS 16 hours initial "training" PLUS the costs of that training PLUS an interminable wait to get your card from the state.

 

[golddigger14s]

Also, they want access to your social media accounts. It may have become shall issue but the requirements will make it almost impossible, and the places that are off limits will make a person just say never mind.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Also, they want access to your social media accounts. It may have become shall issue but the requirements will make it almost impossible, and the places that are off limits will make a person just say never mind.

Last visit to IL nobody I knew was carrying even though they had permits. Almost all businesses are posted, and signs in IL have the force of law. Most of IL outside of the big cities is conservative, but WTF, why do they post their businesses.

 

[Doug_Nightmare]

Concealed means concealed. The exurb that I frequent is largely Russian / East European, with few / no ‘posted’ businesses.

 

[CJ4wd]

Also, they want access to your social media accounts. It may have become shall issue but the requirements will make it almost impossible, and the places that are off limits will make a person just say never mind.

Do "gun forums" count as "social media"?

 

[JTHunter2]

If they are, there will be a lot of us in trouble !!