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Idaho State University Public safety officers armed with semi-automatic pistols

Maverick9

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That's like issuing buckets of water to swimmers. Puzzling.

The press corps of that college need to take a class in English and Logic, or something, because even a HS drop out would say that makes no sense.

AND, I don't look forward to the shooting of a student who was 'misidentified' as a perp.

Perhaps they'll identify these 'officers' and the officers will meet the students and be friendly, like your old neighborhood cop. Hey maybe they'll "Take a student to the Range" on, uh, "Take a Student to the Range Day"?

It could work. Right?
 

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This would be funny if it wasn't so sad. They are admitting that the schools had no protection and that they were not safe to attend as there was no security if somthing happened. That the schools were resposiable for making students "soft tagets". Now that they are allowing retired cops and trained law abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves the schools now say they need armed guards to protect the studets, from what????? If it is the bad guys then why didn't they have armed guards prior to this and if it is to protect the students from the "LAW ABIDING, TRAINED" citizen and retired cops then please explain the logic. Is there any anti-gun person that can please explain this assnine thinking?
 

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Doc Walker:

You are Correct, albeit that The Anti-Gun Crowd will NEVER Understand that Concept.

It is Political Grandstanding at Best..., not to Mention how Idaho is already a Pro-Gun State.

In Idaho, Open Carry has been Arguably Legal in EVERY Place, except Schools for Children Grades K-12.

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This would be funny if it wasn't so sad. They are admitting that the schools had no protection and that they were not safe to attend as there was no security if somthing happened. That the schools were resposiable for making students "soft tagets". Now that they are allowing retired cops and trained law abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves the schools now say they need armed guards to protect the studets, from what????? If it is the bad guys then why didn't they have armed guards prior to this and if it is to protect the students from the "LAW ABIDING, TRAINED" citizen and retired cops then please explain the logic. Is there any anti-gun person that can please explain this assnine thinking?
Well articulated!

They are upset because guns are now allowed at their brainwashing factories to protect those young, impressionable minds. I like the take the student to the range day! Gun safety and education should be a required course! Oh My! I can hear the left wing gun nuts already! :banghead:
 

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"Last week, the school announced the retirement of Stephen Chatterton, director of Public Safety. Moessner said Chatterton's retirement after 23 years wasn't related to the AR-15 order or concerns about campus officers overstepping authority."

"It was an administrative decision based on our reassessment of what we would do in case of an active shooter on campus," King said. "We do have a good working relationship with our local law enforcement and if we did have something like that we would seek out their assistance."
http://http://www.cdapress.com/news/idaho_news/article_7a229ba3-ef3a-5c38-aed5-c58c6309be5d.html

The above two statements are contradictory IMO. It would seem that Mr. Chatterton was released/retired precisely because he wanted the rifles to be available as a potential response instead of depending solely on local LEA.
 
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From CDA Press. Clarifying the "misbehaving"

"The order's cancellation follows concerns among local law enforcement agencies that the school's Campus Public Safety officers overstepped their authority on various occasions, though university spokeswoman Adrienne King said the issues were unrelated.

In September, city officials in Pocatello said campus security delayed calling police after an assistant chemistry professor shot himself in the foot during a lecture when a gun in his pocket went off. By the time city police arrived, the scene had been cleaned up.

In late December, the director of the Idaho State Police rescinded permission for university security vehicles to use red lights after saying campus officers used the lights to stop motorists on and around the campus and issue traffic citations. The authorized use of the red lights was only to alert motorists, not stop them, Idaho State Police said.

On other occasions, the city said, campus security administered an alcohol breath test on a driver before calling police and seized marijuana from a dorm room without notifying police for three days.

Unlike some other large universities that have their own police departments, safety officers at ISU don't have broad authority. But campus officers can make citizens' arrests and detain individuals for questioning by the police. Campus officers are certified under Idaho Peace Officer Standards and Training. They must also meet annual firearm qualification requirements."
 
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"The order's cancellation follows concerns among local law enforcement agencies that the school's Campus Public Safety officers overstepped their authority on various occasions, though university spokeswoman Adrienne King said the issues were unrelated.

In September, city officials in Pocatello said campus security delayed calling police after an assistant chemistry professor shot himself in the foot during a lecture when a gun in his pocket went off. By the time city police arrived, the scene had been cleaned up.

In late December, the director of the Idaho State Police rescinded permission for university security vehicles to use red lights after saying campus officers used the lights to stop motorists on and around the campus and issue traffic citations. The authorized use of the red lights was only to alert motorists, not stop them, Idaho State Police said.

On other occasions, the city said, campus security administered an alcohol breath test on a driver before calling police and seized marijuana from a dorm room without notifying police for three days.

Unlike some other large universities that have their own police departments, safety officers at ISU don't have broad authority. But campus officers can make citizens' arrests and detain individuals for questioning by the police. Campus officers are certified under Idaho Peace Officer Standards and Training. They must also meet annual firearm qualification requirements."
...and now they have guns. :uhoh:
 
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