Interesting summation.
I suppose then, that with the 'equal protection under the law' theory that non-government agents (aka, private citizens) should be held to the same standard?
Should Mr. Greengrocer lose his potential Social Security benefits because he was convicted for improper disposal of out-of-date produce?
Should the country club groundskeeper lose his retirement benefits because he wrote a check for money he didn't have in his checking account?
I'm trying to reconcile this with your
hatred of 'civil asset forfeiture' and coming up short. Help me out, Joe, how does seizing someone's lawfully earned retirement money differ from seizing the lawfully earned cash they have in their wallet?
Are some citizens de facto 'second class citizens' by virtue of their employment?
Nice try however we are discussing convicted government employees that committed crimes while employed by the tax-payers.
Your groundskeeping and greengrocer are not government employees receiving a pay check and building their retirement account with tax payer money.
Do you feel that someone convicted of tax fraud or tax evasion, should be entitled to a tax refund?.
Addressing your " second class citizen query..
Government employees would indeed be the " elite class" even tho they work for us the second class..
The groundskeeping, the grocer, the bartender, do not work under the protection of qualified immunity. The groundskeeper, the grocer, the bartender are not privileged enough to carry a weapon into a court of law.. However government employees may, judge, prosecutor, LEO, all three being government employees..
So please let's get back on my query.. Do you feel that government employees that are charged and prosecuted for a crime (minor or major) while employed and being compensated with tax payer funds. Should they lose their tax payer funded pension?
Let me break this down to six-grade thinking for you..
Mr.Clyde Chestnut Barrow is a 20 year employee with the local Sheriff department employed as a payroll master hence he prepares the pay checks for the department employees..
Mr.Barrow is accused, arrested and prosecuted for paying himself and his lady lover also an employee of said department Ms. Bonnie Elizabeth Parker extra money each month in their pay checks.. Both are arrested and found guilty of embezzlement and theft and theft by deception.. Both obviously lose their jobs and are sentenced to 8 years in prison..
Now 109, should Mr. Barrow and Ms. Parker still be entitled to receive their tax payer funded pensions from the same entity ( government) that they were stealing and embezzling therefrom?..
Is there a difference between Mr. Barrow, Ms.Parker and our criminal Mr.Arpaio? All three are convicted of a crime, all three are government employees. all three are compensated by tax payer money, all three have a government pension funded by the hard working tax payers.
Again should government employees convicted of a crime while on the job, be entitled to their tax payer funded government pensions?
Regarding social security pension or whatever its moniker... Are you aware that the SSA does not have a legal obligation to return the funds they stole from you over your working life time? There is case law to support my statement however my Jameson full brain is running slow.:lol:
Also Government asset forfeiture against innocent Americans is unconstitutional.. Revoking a government pension from a government criminal is proper equity sharing in my humble opinion..
My .02
CCJ
