The stop of a person himself is a “seizure”. A Terry stop, and the allowed searches during one, are 4A issues.
Thanks...as to your last statement, that would be a unlawful seizure cuz every cop knows how to get to a doughnut shop, like birds flying south for the winter, it's in there DNA...or, it's a fella posing as a cop.OC for ME, A very good post. You make very clear that you are presenting your opinion. Then you go on and explain why your belief is what it is with case law citings.
Now, where the problem will be is someone will argue with you and it will become obvious they didn't read the cases you cited. But, they will insist your wrong.
I will add one caveat, if a cop stops you to ask directions to the nearest doughnut shop, that is not a seizure.