Moving from Washington to Idaho

[thewise1]

I'm moving from Washington to Idaho this weekend. Looking forward to it!

I wanted to know if anyone knows at what point my WA CPL becomes invalid in the move process. I'll be getting the enhanced license in Idaho as I'll be in Moscow and right on the border, but I know that takes a few months from what I was able to ascertain. At what point am I forced to go OC only until I get that?

Thanks so much!

 

[OC Freedom]

Your permit is valid. My Washington permit has my Idaho address on it, I had the address updated before I made the move from Spokane to the Boise area. Washington will issue anyone (that's legal to have one) from any state and Idaho will recognize your Washington permit even if your a resident of Idaho.

I personally have decided not to get an Idaho regular or enhanced permit. Until Kalifornia and Oregon recognizes other states permits I just don't see the need for one. If you buy a firearm as an Idaho resident the NICS check is waived if you have an Idaho permit, but I don't see that as a big deal myself.

Open carry here in Idaho is real boring, haven't been bothered negatively yet, but have had many positive interactions with folks. I even opened carry in bars, no problems, it's legal to do so.

 

[DCR]

Your WA Permit is valid, and you should keep it, BUT...

I'd also recommend getting an Idaho enhanced permit.

By all means, keep your WA permit active, and renew it. However, if you want to purchase a handgun from an Idaho dealer and avoid the background check hassle, the Concealed Weapons License from Washington does you no good, even if it has your Idaho address on it. The 4473 specifically requires photo ID issued by your state of residence to purchase a handgun. Yes, there are alternate ways to complete the purchase - alternate identification can suffice - but without a CWL from Idaho, you're going to get background checked.

 

[Jeff Hayes]

No matter what you are going to have a background check done on you via NICS before you purchase a firearm from an FFL. It has been federal law since 1993, as far as I know there are no waiting periods for firearms purchases in Idaho so I am not sure what DCR is talking about when he says you will not get background checked if you have an Idaho CWL.

 

[SovereigntyOrDeath]

No matter what you are going to have a background check done on you via NICS before you purchase a firearm from an FFL. It has been federal law since 1993, as far as I know there are no waiting periods for firearms purchases in Idaho so I am not sure what DCR is talking about when he says you will not get background checked if you have an Idaho CWL.

not the case. see below

III. Transfers That Do Not Require a Background Check

A. Permit Exception

A NICS check is not required if a transferee presents a valid Permit to Carry issued through the state POC that the ATF has indicated satisfies the provisions for the permit exception included in the Brady Act. A list of valid permits can be obtained from the following http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms/firearms-industry/permanent-brady-permit-chart. However, if a NICS check is initiated before the permit is presented, the NICS check cannot be canceled.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/federal-firearms-licensees/ffl-manual

thewise1,

This is the case in Idaho. No check, no delays if you have a conceal permit.

Welcome to Idaho!

 

[acmariner99]

No matter what you are going to have a background check done on you via NICS before you purchase a firearm from an FFL. It has been federal law since 1993, as far as I know there are no waiting periods for firearms purchases in Idaho so I am not sure what DCR is talking about when he says you will not get background checked if you have an Idaho CWL.

Not true. Some permits qualify as a NICS check (if the background check for the permit involves a Federal check in addition to the state check.) I had/have an Arizona CWP. When I was living in AZ and presented the CWP while purchasing a firearm, they didn't make any phone calls. What I'd give to go back to AZ.

 

[solus]

NC's jim Crow 14-402 statute serve one useful purpose: county sheriff issued PPPs and NC state issued CHP's also are exempt from FBI NICS firearm checks, therefore the NC FFL does not need to drop a dime to accomplish to call.

The FFLs have the following three methods of performing background checks depending upon the state in which the FFL is conducting business:

1. In states where the state government has agreed to serve as the POC for the system, the FFLs contact the NICS through the state POC for all firearm transfers. The state POC conducts the NICS check and determines whether or not the transfer would violate state or federal law.

2. In states where the state government has declined to serve as a POC, the FFLs initiate a NICS background check by contacting the NICS Call Centers for all firearm transfers. The FBI conducts the NICS check and determines whether or not the transfer would violate state or federal law.

3. Finally, in states where the state government has agreed to serve as a POC for handgun purchases but not for long gun purchases, the FFLs contact the NICS through the designated state POC for handgun transfers and the NICS Section for long gun transfers.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/general-information/fact-sheet

ipse

 

[thewise1]

Thank you all for the great information!

I am planning to go to the woods and do some target shooting soon now that I'm getting settled in. I LOVE it here, by the way.

My follow up question is this: are there any legal caveats to taking my kids shooting with me that i need to be aware of here? Age limits, etc? I'm guessing not, but better safe than sorry.

 

[oldbanger]

Children with Firearms

No person under the age of ten (10) years shall have in his possession any shotgun, rifle or other firearm while in the fields or forests or in any tent, camp, auto or any other vehicle in the state of Idaho, except that the holder of a valid hunting license or a participant in a mentored hunting program as prescribed by rules of the commission, if accompanied by an adult licensed to hunt in the state of Idaho, may possess a firearm for hunting while in the fields or forests.

http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title36/T36CH15SECT36-1508.htm

POSSESSION OF A WEAPON BY A MINOR

http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title18/T18CH33SECT18-3302E.htm

regarding possession of handguns by minors shall not apply to any of the following:
Any minor under eighteen (18) years of age who is on real property with the permission of the owner, licensee, or lessee of the property and who has the permission of a parent or legal guardian or the owner, licensee, or lessee to possess a firearm not otherwise in violation of the law

http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title18/T18CH33SECT18-3302G.htm