I keep reading about off limit CC or OC in this or that place that sells alcohol. Why not get a bill going that only applies to sitting at a bar or saloon, or bar/saloon area like applebees. Also prohibit carrying while intoxocated or drinking alcohol. That way you can go into Applebees and have a steak witout worring about a felony....
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New Mexico Should Rally and Write Their Reps!
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TravisNM
Regular Member
In NM...
-No OC around any alcohol. Period.
-No CC while drinking alochol.
-CC is not prohibited in off-site consumption establishments (liquor store, gas station, grocery, etc.)
-CC is not prohibited in on-site consumption establishments as long as "it’s a restaurant that is only licensed to sell beer and wine that derives 60% or more of its revenue from food."
-No OC around any alcohol. Period.
-No CC while drinking alochol.
-CC is not prohibited in off-site consumption establishments (liquor store, gas station, grocery, etc.)
-CC is not prohibited in on-site consumption establishments as long as "it’s a restaurant that is only licensed to sell beer and wine that derives 60% or more of its revenue from food."
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Vermonter- the people that operate behind the scenes, most notably represented here by Steve Aikens, have been working toward this end. The laws that were changed in 2010, mentioned by Travis above, were a result of those efforts. They were also a compromise of what the original proposal was.
Hopefully when the legislators see that there is not blood running in the streets from being able to carry into these locations, the removal of prohibitions on locations involving liquor on-site will be able to move forward.
Hopefully when the legislators see that there is not blood running in the streets from being able to carry into these locations, the removal of prohibitions on locations involving liquor on-site will be able to move forward.
steveaikens
Opt-Out Members
AH.74 is correct. HB 83 was drafted to say: RELATING TO FIREARMS; ALLOWING CONCEALED HANDGUNS IN A RESTAURANT THAT SELLS ALCOHOL........ Before a bill is allowed to even be introduced, work has to be done to secure at least reasonable support. Prior to its introduction, we met strong resistence and it was suggested we change it to limit to beer and wine licensees only. Even then, it was a constant battle from the Gov on down. Even after passing the bill, the Gov REQUIRED us to change the Administrative Code.
From Gov. Richardson March 10, 2010
"SANTA FE–Governor Bill Richardson today signed a bill that removes the ban on concealed carry licensees from bringing their weapons into New Mexico restaurants with beer and wine licenses. However, Governor Richardson is ordering additional safeguards to address public safety concerns surrounding the bill.
SB 40 was sponsored by Sen. George Munoz.
“My decision to sign this bill came after much contemplation and thought. I heard strong opinions from both those for and against the bill,” Governor Richardson said. “As the Governor of a western state, I know well the deep feelings that come with such a measure, but I also understand those feelings and beliefs must be tempered by the enactment of certain safeguards.”
Under current New Mexico statute and regulation, there is no clear and explicit prohibition on the consumption of alcohol while carrying a concealed weapon. Governor Richardson is directing the New Mexico Department of Public Safety to revise its regulations to make it clear that consumption of alcohol while carrying a concealed weapon is prohibited. "
Unless you're in Santa Fe and see first hand how this get submarined, you're not going to understand how it happens.
Currently, we have a MOST challenging legislature to work with. Even the most minor change - for example, SB26 that simply brings NM in compliance with federal law that is being worked on right now is at risk of not making it through.
Steve Aikens.
From Gov. Richardson March 10, 2010
"SANTA FE–Governor Bill Richardson today signed a bill that removes the ban on concealed carry licensees from bringing their weapons into New Mexico restaurants with beer and wine licenses. However, Governor Richardson is ordering additional safeguards to address public safety concerns surrounding the bill.
SB 40 was sponsored by Sen. George Munoz.
“My decision to sign this bill came after much contemplation and thought. I heard strong opinions from both those for and against the bill,” Governor Richardson said. “As the Governor of a western state, I know well the deep feelings that come with such a measure, but I also understand those feelings and beliefs must be tempered by the enactment of certain safeguards.”
Under current New Mexico statute and regulation, there is no clear and explicit prohibition on the consumption of alcohol while carrying a concealed weapon. Governor Richardson is directing the New Mexico Department of Public Safety to revise its regulations to make it clear that consumption of alcohol while carrying a concealed weapon is prohibited. "
Unless you're in Santa Fe and see first hand how this get submarined, you're not going to understand how it happens.
Currently, we have a MOST challenging legislature to work with. Even the most minor change - for example, SB26 that simply brings NM in compliance with federal law that is being worked on right now is at risk of not making it through.
Steve Aikens.
JamesB
Regular Member
Just for the ... of it, what are the penalties for violations of these?
Are any or all of them felonies?
How does it compare to CC without permit?
You guys know how to look these up far easier than I do. Thanks.
steveaikens
Opt-Out Members
Pick one - Fourth Degree Felony. In this case, there's no difference between carrying concealed without a license around alcohol or open carry, except the added violation of concealing without a license being added to the felony, creating a second felony charge.