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non-resident TN. carry permit

chocofan

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Hi all, I have a question about the TN. non-resident permit, I live in FL. but I work in TN. I do not have a FL. ccw at the moment but I do have a VA. non resident permit. Since I do have a VA. non resident permit and working in TN. could I qualify for a TN. NR permit?
Or would I need to take the 8hr. handgun class in order to recive a TN. NR permit?
also when applying for the TN. NR. would I need a letter from my place of employment?
I do travel a lot and having different permits from other states would be helpful I also plan on applying for the IL. non resident as well.
 

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My suggestion is to contact the TN dept. of safety and talk to someone directly. Go to TN.GOV and look up the dept. of safety and get the phone #. You might also look up TN law on the subject. I do believe you have to prove you actually do work in TN. I am not sure on your other questions.
 

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Hi all, I have a question about the TN. non-resident permit, I live in FL. but I work in TN. I do not have a FL. ccw at the moment but I do have a VA. non resident permit. Since I do have a VA. non resident permit and working in TN. could I qualify for a TN. NR permit?
Or would I need to take the 8hr. handgun class in order to recive a TN. NR permit?
also when applying for the TN. NR. would I need a letter from my place of employment?
I do travel a lot and having different permits from other states would be helpful I also plan on applying for the IL. non resident as well.
No such thing as a TN NR pistol permit (bullet #2): http://www.tn.gov/safety/handgun/qualifications.shtml

So the rest of your questions are pretty moot.
 

davidmcbeth

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Just because one crosses a state line, they lose their RKBA? B-O-G-U-S ...

No permit or permission slips should be required.
 

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No such thing as a TN NR pistol permit (bullet #2): http://www.tn.gov/safety/handgun/qualifications.shtml

So the rest of your questions are pretty moot.
Well, there is not a non-resident permit per se, but they will indeed issue a TN HCP to a non-resident under certain circumstances. As a matter of fact, seems it is a requirement if you regularly work enough hours, pretty much same as for becoming a TN resident.


From TCA 39-17-1351:

"(C) (i) If a person who is a resident of and handgun permit holder in another state is employed in this state on a regular basis and desires to carry a handgun in this state, the person shall have six (6) months from the last day of the sixth month of regular employment in this state to obtain a Tennessee handgun carry permit. The permit may be issued based on the person having a permit from another state provided the other state has substantially similar permit eligibility requirements as this state. However, if during the six-month period the person applies for a handgun permit in this state and the application is denied, the person shall not be allowed to carry a handgun in this state based upon the other state's permit.

(ii) The provisions of this subdivision (r)(3)(C) shall not apply if the state of residence of the person employed in Tennessee has entered into a handgun permit reciprocity agreement with this state pursuant to this subsection (r).

(iii) As used in this subdivision (r)(3)(C), "employed in this state on a regular basis" means a person has been gainfully employed in this state for at least thirty (30) hours a week for six (6) consecutive months not counting any absence from employment caused by the employee's use of sick leave, annual leave, administrative leave or compensatory time."

- OS
 
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chocofan

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Well, there is not a non-resident permit per se, but they will indeed issue a TN HCP to a non-resident under certain circumstances. As a matter of fact, seems it is a requirement if you regularly work enough hours, pretty much same as for becoming a TN resident.


From TCA 39-17-1351:

"(C) (i) If a person who is a resident of and handgun permit holder in another state is employed in this state on a regular basis and desires to carry a handgun in this state, the person shall have six (6) months from the last day of the sixth month of regular employment in this state to obtain a Tennessee handgun carry permit. The permit may be issued based on the person having a permit from another state provided the other state has substantially similar permit eligibility requirements as this state. However, if during the six-month period the person applies for a handgun permit in this state and the application is denied, the person shall not be allowed to carry a handgun in this state based upon the other state's permit.

(ii) The provisions of this subdivision (r)(3)(C) shall not apply if the state of residence of the person employed in Tennessee has entered into a handgun permit reciprocity agreement with this state pursuant to this subsection (r).

(iii) As used in this subdivision (r)(3)(C), "employed in this state on a regular basis" means a person has been gainfully employed in this state for at least thirty (30) hours a week for six (6) consecutive months not counting any absence from employment caused by the employee's use of sick leave, annual leave, administrative leave or compensatory time."

- OS

Thank you, Oh shoot for making that clear. although a VA NR permit is valid in TN. and many other states, and like I said I do travel a lot I would like this option and technicly I would qualify under the exception.
I guess I will make the query to the department of safety since I do have certain details that need to be cleared.
 

chocofan

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Thank you, Oh shoot for making that clear. although a VA NR permit is valid in TN. and many other states, and like I said I do travel a lot I would like this option and technicly I would qualify under the exception.
I guess I will make the query to the department of safety since I do have certain details that need to be cleared.
recived this email today from TN. department of safety: This is in response to your inquiry into applying for a Tennessee Non-Resident Handgun Carry Permit.



Due to our reciprocity agreement with the State of Florida, you will not be eligible to obtain a Non-Resident Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit. You may legally carry your weapon with a valid Florida permit. If you do not possess a Florida Handgun Permit, you may wish to apply for one.



You may legally carry your weapon in Tennessee provided you have your valid out of state handgun carry permit with you at all times. If you do not hold a valid out of state permit, you will need to apply for a permit in the state in which you reside.

bummer!:cry:
 

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Considering TN now honors permits from all other states, I'm not even sure why they still issue "non-resident" permits. This was in the original law, back when some states didn't issue permits and many states didn't honor other states permits. Also at that time TN only honored permits from states that they had a formal written reciprocity agreement with. At some point this needs to be removed from the statute IMO.
 

chocofan

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I would have liked a TN. permit cause it would have allowed me to carry in many more states.
since I do travel constantly.
when I get the chance I'll apply for FL. CCW.
 

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Good luck.

Just remember, if you do get a non-resident permit from somewhere, some states do not honor non-resident permits been if they honor resident permits from that state.
 

chocofan

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Good luck.

Just remember, if you do get a non-resident permit from somewhere, some states do not honor non-resident permits been if they honor resident permits from that state.

You are correct, my home state is one of those but there are certain was I could carry legally in my home state while in a vehicle. Once I would cross the state line into GA. for example witch does reciprocate with AZ. NR permit I should be ok. And in most states east of the MI. river not to mention IL.,New England, SC.,MD. and in the event that I would need to enter one of these states witch would be rare I would incase it accordingly if needed or glove box it, or simply carry it in the vehicle according to that states law. A national license would be great but none exsistent for the moment.
 

chocofan

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Strongly disagree. You do not want the Fed to have that in its control.

- OS
really why is that? I've never thought about it in that manner before please explain why?
so you think everything should remain as it is?
well considering what the ATF does some times I wouldn't doubt what the FBI would do.
 

Fallguy

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You shouldn't need a license period, but a national license is a bad idea because there is no telling what restrictions would be placed upon it.
 

chocofan

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good point, yes I think it's best the way it is.
I am considering the IL. NR permit though, I don't go there often but since they are so very strict on there 55 mph highway speed limit , I would imagine there gun laws would be?
 

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good point, yes I think it's best the way it is.
I am considering the IL. NR permit though, I don't go there often but since they are so very strict on there 55 mph highway speed limit , I would imagine there gun laws would be?
If you can legally carry in your state of residence, you can carry in your vehicle in IL.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/illinois.pdf
 

chocofan

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exactly in you're vehicle ,I would like to carry in and out of the vehicle that's why I would like an IL. NR permit.
I will admit between the 16 hr. class and the permit fee witch I think is $300. + 30 round's that need to be shot, it sound's really expensive.
I think there is some one here in FL. that offers the IL. class and the paper work.




Non-Residents
No reciprocity: Out of state licenses not valid.
Non-Residents may apply for an Illinois
license. Must meet essentially the same
requirements as an Illinois applicant.
Non Residents are allowed to transport a
concealed firearm within their vehicle without
a permit, provided they have a valid out-ofstate
permit. If the vehicle is left unattended,
the firearm must either be in a locked
container or the vehicle must be locked.

You must have an Illinois Permit to Carry a firearm in Illinois.
 

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really why is that? I've never thought about it in that manner before please explain why?
so you think everything should remain as it is?
well considering what the ATF does some times I wouldn't doubt what the FBI would do.
Anything the Fed can set a precedent to control, it will control.

It's a very short step from the "freedom" of federally mandated 50 state carry to, as FallGuy says, putting more and more conditions on doing it, or simply reversing 180 to no carry at all. Anything is possible under federal control, and our government is not known for less regulation over time if you haven't noticed.

The very fact that we can't possess firearms on the very turf or in the buildings we "own" should be a clue.

When states lose the sole right to decide something to the Fed, they don't get it back.

It actually almost passed a couple of years ago, but can't imagine it standing short of SCOTUS decision. You really think CA,NY,CT,NJ,MD, et al, is gonna let us hillbillies trot around in their states with heaters without a powerful legal fight?

- OS
 
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chocofan

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Wow! so true and these are the states with the most crime rates, you know I try to explain to some people of self protection but they look at me like I'm nut's
A criminal is like a bully he will take what ever you have.
 
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