gmijackso
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I know it's been asked before, but seems to be quite old topics. I also wanted to post my story and bring another "problem" to light.
I stopped at Bass Pro Shop on my way home from work this evening hoping they might have some 9mm ammo in stock (they didn't) and a guy was in there looking for a gun rack for his truck and asked a salesperson for assistance. While asking what they carry he also asks the salesperson "It is legal to have the gun visible in the truck right?". Well the salesperson was a little slow responding, so I responded for him, told him Nevada is an open carry state, and with long guns you're not allowed to carry with a round in the chamber, but otherwise he should be safe. Then, the salesperson, "corrects" me to say that what I said is true, excepting that in North Las Vegas, and Boulder City there are city ordinances which require the ammo and gun to be transported separately from each other. I argued this for a moment and was told that if you did as I suggested in NLV you'd be arrested, I conceded that I may be wrong since I wasn't POSITIVE in what I remembered reading, and better safe than sorry in most instances.
So, I looked it all up again when I got home tonight. I see that the state law DOES in fact preempt all existing or future more restrictive gun law. Doing a search here and in general however, turned up what appeared to be support for the Bass Pro Shop salesman in that they apparently don't care that the law was preempted? I know a trash cleanup has been done semi-recently in NLV and that it was successful, but are there ANY problems still occurring in NLV?
This also brought to my attention that you have seemingly educated people (the Bass Pro Shop guys in this case) giving misinformation to the public as to what is and isn't legal. I know there is likely a hint of liability there in that they don't want to be giving information that gets somebody arrested or detained, even if it is falsely, but it also can't be good for the "cause". In anybodies mind that overheard that conversation, anybody carrying a loaded weapon in NLV in a vehicle is violating the law.
So, to summarize, have there been any recent incidents in North Las Vegas? Have any past incidents been challenged and won? Lastly, what can/should be done to educate people that are likely to answer questions brought up by the public (like the Bass Pro Shop guy)?
Edit: I'm going to add to this that I'm now unsure about my understanding of the preemption of local laws. So, I'm not sure what you can and can't do in North Las Vegas. As I understand the legal definition of preemption, it means that State law has higher authority over local law. But, since state law doesn't specifically allow open carry or vehicle carry, that seems to leave the loophole open for local law to deny it. In effect, there is no state law to "over-rule" the local law, right? Why does everything have to be so difficult? :banghead:
I know it's been asked before, but seems to be quite old topics. I also wanted to post my story and bring another "problem" to light.
I stopped at Bass Pro Shop on my way home from work this evening hoping they might have some 9mm ammo in stock (they didn't) and a guy was in there looking for a gun rack for his truck and asked a salesperson for assistance. While asking what they carry he also asks the salesperson "It is legal to have the gun visible in the truck right?". Well the salesperson was a little slow responding, so I responded for him, told him Nevada is an open carry state, and with long guns you're not allowed to carry with a round in the chamber, but otherwise he should be safe. Then, the salesperson, "corrects" me to say that what I said is true, excepting that in North Las Vegas, and Boulder City there are city ordinances which require the ammo and gun to be transported separately from each other. I argued this for a moment and was told that if you did as I suggested in NLV you'd be arrested, I conceded that I may be wrong since I wasn't POSITIVE in what I remembered reading, and better safe than sorry in most instances.
So, I looked it all up again when I got home tonight. I see that the state law DOES in fact preempt all existing or future more restrictive gun law. Doing a search here and in general however, turned up what appeared to be support for the Bass Pro Shop salesman in that they apparently don't care that the law was preempted? I know a trash cleanup has been done semi-recently in NLV and that it was successful, but are there ANY problems still occurring in NLV?
This also brought to my attention that you have seemingly educated people (the Bass Pro Shop guys in this case) giving misinformation to the public as to what is and isn't legal. I know there is likely a hint of liability there in that they don't want to be giving information that gets somebody arrested or detained, even if it is falsely, but it also can't be good for the "cause". In anybodies mind that overheard that conversation, anybody carrying a loaded weapon in NLV in a vehicle is violating the law.
So, to summarize, have there been any recent incidents in North Las Vegas? Have any past incidents been challenged and won? Lastly, what can/should be done to educate people that are likely to answer questions brought up by the public (like the Bass Pro Shop guy)?
Edit: I'm going to add to this that I'm now unsure about my understanding of the preemption of local laws. So, I'm not sure what you can and can't do in North Las Vegas. As I understand the legal definition of preemption, it means that State law has higher authority over local law. But, since state law doesn't specifically allow open carry or vehicle carry, that seems to leave the loophole open for local law to deny it. In effect, there is no state law to "over-rule" the local law, right? Why does everything have to be so difficult? :banghead: