usmcbess
Regular Member
is OC in state parks legal?
is OC in state parks legal?
Yes, with some exceptions (Of Course). You cannot carry in buildings where employees carry out their duties. Out door restrooms are OK!
Some parks are within the City limits of municipalities that prohibit OC - Example Babbler State part is within the City limits of Wildwood, therefore you cannot OC there. The Park people don't have a problem with it, trust me, the Wildwood police do! If you have written permission from the park you could OC there, I tried to get it ( I walk in the park several times a week in the evening) , never going to happen.
There are a lot of State Parks, you have to check the local laws the park is in to get the latest information.
Oh, nice shoot'n with you a few weeks ago, your good!
Well as we have established before in regards to this topic. The park would have to be considered private property for there to be a necessity to get written permission.
What I believe is a more accurate answer would be is that Wildwood PD has threatened to mis use the law to write a misdemeanor charge for carrying a firearm onto private property without consent if you were to carry a firearm in an open manner in Babbler State park.
Would they write the ticket? Maybe. Would it be a legal ticket? Not even close. Personally I believe they are bluffing. If they are not I hope they are punished throughly for a miss use of power and authority as it obviously would be just that.
Doc
If I had the time and money and nothing else to do it wouild be interesting to challange it. NOT THE CASE! I've read the local BS, we've talked about it, that about puts and end to it. The park would not answer my letter when I asked for "written permission" to OC in Babler. No surprise there, I even porvided them with State Park and Wildwood documentation....
I've OCed at Babler almost a dozen times in the last year. Never heard a word from anyone.
Was also walking my dog off a leash.
Do you know any compotent attorney's that are willing to take this case because I would be willing to be the actor if so.
That's OK, but ever encounter a LEO or Park official? You can kill a deer inthe park, but if no one sees you....
palm to face!
Actually discussing PLANNING to violate the law on an open forum?
Embarrassing!
palm to face!
Actually discussing PLANNING to violate the law on an open forum?
Embarrassing!
NO NO! If you want to violate the law on purpose, get arrested and go through the process tell the LEOS where and when, get the lawyer up to speed and informed prior and have the bail money in place. Go through the motions, get out of jail. It's been done before to establish Missouri Tresspass law/ Crawford Co., MO. The thing went all the way to the US Big court!
palm to face!
Actually discussing PLANNING to violate the law on an open forum?
Embarrassing!
All unconstitutional laws are not laws at all. Face+Palm!LOL
It's not even unlawful to OC in Wildwood. face+palm.....wow that really hurts no wonder LMTD is always so scatterbrained
There are a lot of descriptors folks have used to describe me in my past, scatterbrained is not one of them.
OC in wildwood is indeed against the law without permission from the owner of the property, it is fairly well defined as much despite the original intent of the statute.
Breaking the law is one issue, openly discussing intent to violate the law is another, there is a word for it, conspiracy. It ads an extra charge to it.
Your desire to be the poster boy for OC in Wildwood is misguided at best and despite any theories you might have, if you toddled yourself out to your shed and found that barrel full of 100 dollar bills you’re going to need to get such a law declared unconstitutional by SCOTUS, by all means proceed. When a grand win comes in and Wildwood council does exactly the same thing Maplewood did, perhaps you can see if they will name it after you.
My goal is for OC for the whole state and as long as the situation presents itself as only effecting a minor portion that still has the legal standing to revise and restrict, significant efforts lack good sense to this scatterbrained old man.
I would suggest you stick with your efforts at simply OC'ing where it is legal instead of dreaming about fame from minor infractions that will likely have more of a negative impact on the movement as a whole, but do as you like.
I think scatterbrained is good seeing as I never did mention where I would be OCing.