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OC Sheriff- Your CCW application interview is July 2016!!!!!

oc4ever

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Over 3000 new initial CCW applications recently since thew Peralta ruling have pushed first time application interviews out more than two years! Remember the permit is only good for two years. Just more justice delayed. The Sheriff needs to streamline their process, and take a look at how other large Counties make the process work.
 

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When a California judge ruled gays could marry, the county officers started issuing licenses within 48 hours. Then there was an injunction filed.

When the SCOTUS struck down Californias ban on same sex marriage, the counties resumed issuing licenses again in 48 hours.

I guess the 2nd Amendment isn't very important.
 

fjpro2a

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Well-Stated

When a California judge ruled gays could marry, the county officers started issuing licenses within 48 hours. Then there was an injunction filed.

When the SCOTUS struck down Californias ban on same sex marriage, the counties resumed issuing licenses again in 48 hours.

I guess the 2nd Amendment isn't very important.
Onus, You can't state it any clearer than that!!!
 

MackTheKnife

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Exactly!

When a California judge ruled gays could marry, the county officers started issuing licenses within 48 hours. Then there was an injunction filed.

When the SCOTUS struck down Californias ban on same sex marriage, the counties resumed issuing licenses again in 48 hours.

I guess the 2nd Amendment isn't very important.


You are spot on. It's amazing what libs will do when it suits thier purpose.
 

BB62

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Over 3000 new initial CCW applications recently since thew Peralta ruling have pushed first time application interviews out more than two years! Remember the permit is only good for two years. Just more justice delayed. The Sheriff needs to streamline their process, and take a look at how other large Counties make the process work.
Link?
 

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+1 I haven't been able to find any reference via Google about this, if you have a link it would add credibility to your claim.

I did find the case Richards v Prieto, challenging Yolo County. Like San Diego they have the blatantly unconstitutional "good cause" requirement that was struck down in by the 9th court Peruta v San Diego, but I didn't find any blurbs about major delays in CCW issuance...


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When a California judge ruled gays could marry, the county officers started issuing licenses within 48 hours. Then there was an injunction filed.

When the SCOTUS struck down Californias ban on same sex marriage, the counties resumed issuing licenses again in 48 hours.

I guess the 2nd Amendment isn't very important.
Wow, you nailed it on the head big time! Wish I could "like" your post.
 

oc4ever

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+1 I haven't been able to find any reference via Google about this, if you have a link it would add credibility to your claim.

I did find the case Richards v Prieto, challenging Yolo County. Like San Diego they have the blatantly unconstitutional "good cause" requirement that was struck down in by the 9th court Peruta v San Diego, but I didn't find any blurbs about major delays in CCW issuance...


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LOS ANGELES TIMES





O.C. flooded with nearly 3,000 concealed weapons applications
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Concealed weapons
Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)
By Jill Cowan
March 20, 2014, 1:10 p.m.

The staggering backlog of applications for concealed weapons permits in Orange County has grown to almost 3,000 and some applicants said they’ve been told it may be years before their applications are fully processed.

The flood of applications for concealed weapons permits was triggered by a pro-gun appeals court ruling that relaxed the restrictions on who could carry weapons.

Orange County Sheriff’s Department officials said they are scrambling to speed up the process and deal with the thousands of gun applications that have rolled in since February.

Since the court ruling last month, the Sheriff’s Department has received four times the applications it typically receives in an entire year.

“There’s just no way this pace keeps up,” said Lt. Jeff Hallock, the department’s spokesman.

On Wednesday, Sheriff Sandra Hutchens said she would eliminate an in-person gun inspection component of the application process to help streamline the process

All the while, the department continues to navigate a kind of legal limbo. State Atty. Gen. Kamala Harris has said she plans to appeal the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling, in the absence of an appeal by San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore, who was the named defendant in the original case.

“We’re still in that kind of leeway area where the courts can still withdraw the decision,” Hallock said. “Following that, we may continue down the same course or we may have to divert and go in another direction.”

Hutchens has said that she intends to “follow the law.”

“That is what I did prior to the law change and that is what I’m doing today,” she told the Orange County Board of Supervisors earlier this month.

While supervisors voted to support the hiring of about 15 retired deputies on a temporary basis to help handle the onslaught, Hallock said that may not ultimately be the best course of action.

“We’re not prepared to commit 15 full-time personnel,” he said.

He said that officials are in the process of identifying potential part-time staff, possibly from the department’s professional standards division.

Hallock added that the delay in processing is in no way a “stall tactic,” despite claims to the contrary.

Still, Orange County applicants say they’re growing impatient, waiting to see if their interview and background check appointments — which now are set for as late as mid-2016 — will be adjusted.

“My appointment is set for Sept. 9, 2016,” Irvine-based attorney Mark Adams wrote in an email. “In any event, this outrageously long queue is a hard pill to swallow, given that the pent-up demand for permits was caused by a violation of the constitutional rights of Orange County citizens in the first place.”

Russell Mallette— a Costa Mesa resident who works for a private security company and owns a small business — said he wished that those with applications pending before the change in policy would be given “favorable precedence” over those who jumped online as soon as the court ruling came down.

He said he was told when he first submitted an application in late 2012 that his work may not be sufficient “good cause” to carry a concealed weapon, so rather than risk getting rejected, he opted to put his application on hold.

“I don’t want to seem like one of those guys who says, ‘Oh, this sounds cool, I’m going to get my permit,’” he said. “I take every course my industry offers me – crisis negotiation, taught by an FBI agent ... I’ve got the certs on the wall to back it up.”

As of now, his interview appointment is set for Jan. 13, 2016 at 9:30 a.m.



http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...weapons-20140320,0,835929.story#ixzz2xxfu43Dm
 

cirrusly

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"Hallock added that the delay in processing is in no way a “stall tactic"
BS. I hope another lawsuit is filed regarding the delay.
 

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Peoples appointments have been moved up significantly since OC hired 15 retired deputies to process applications.
Maybe they figured it was cheaper than 3000 lawsuits .... good move...

And a monkey can process this crap. Heck, they have you sign an affidavit, that should be all that's needed ... if anything.

They should just have permits in the waiting area for anyone to take and scratch their name into them...
 

Craftymommy

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I am so glad I moved out of California a little over a year ago. I am in Nevada, I can OC with few restrictions, I can get my ccw with an 8hour class and have it in about 3 months. I don't doubt the waiting period at all. I know my grandfather(still living in California) has said that there is so much hassle and paperwork to go through that it isn't even worth it to get.

I wish you Cali residents best of luck in obtaining your CCW and getting your rights back! Or feel free to move where you can exercise your rights:cool:
 

Gray Peterson

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I have no doubt if they entirely eliminated the in person interveiwing or residency checks they could process it much quicker. That being said, I have three friends in Orange County who originally had their appointments all the way to 2016 who were moved up to this month.

Right now Orange County has 634 licensees.

http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/cgf_sheriff_exhibits.A.pdf

They're on track to needing to process anywhere from 23,000 to 118,000 applications.
 
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