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Petition for an Exception to a Forum Rule

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EMNofSeattle

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In these pressing times

We have more to worry about as 2A supporters then OC of handguns, WE NEED to begin advocacy for general 2A rights as they are under assault with a weapon of the bully pulpit and public support.

In addition the rule is widely ignored already,and long gun OC is already being discussed on forum boards and is not always removed, I can think of several threads to this effect

finally, for 18-20 adults in many states pistol OC is illegal and thus "public policy" requires OC of long guns by certain classes of legal adults.

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Not today I wasn't, but you may do so if it pleasures you.
I don't think you understand how petitions work.

You have a genuine, sincere, articulate petition for an exception to a forum rule you are not personally authorized to waive. You are the recipient of the petition and it is completely appropriate for you to use your communication channels to forward it to the owner(s), appending your own comments if desired. Failure to forward it after you know about it is effectively a denial.

I did not PM the owners because I know the owners are absent for extended periods, but I was betting you have faster communication channels like personal e-mail; and because time is short for organizing or attending protests and rallies.
 

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OCDO = normalization of holstered handguns in everyday life and state specific info related to RKBA.........within the forum rules.
Promotion of OC of full auto (class III) is not encouraged/promoted - seems like an intelligent rule to me.
Since when does long gun=full auto? Your statement in no way comes to a reasonable conclusion that the rule is intelligent.
Long gun does not = full auto. It is however a reasonable extension wherein I would not give my endorsement.

I don't think you understand how petitions work.

You have a genuine, sincere, articulate petition for an exception to a forum rule you are not personally authorized to waive. You are the recipient of the petition and it is completely appropriate for you to use your communication channels to forward it to the owner(s), appending your own comments if desired. Failure to forward it after you know about it is effectively a denial.

I did not PM the owners because I know the owners are absent for extended periods, but I was betting you have faster communication channels like personal e-mail; and because time is short for organizing or attending protests and rallies.
I don't think you understand how the forum works - any post, any post at all, may be reported (pro or con) and is thus forwarded direct to the administration. Believe me, this thread has been seen - you may not however get a direct response.

I do not support the change requested.
 

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Although I would not oc a long gun personally, I would not object to an additional thread regarding long guns. Perhaps place it between Open Carry Questions and True Tales.

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Long gun does not = full auto. It is however a reasonable extension wherein I would not give my endorsement.



I don't think you understand how the forum works - any post, any post at all, may be reported (pro or con) and is thus forwarded direct to the administration. Believe me, this thread has been seen - you may not however get a direct response.

I do not support the change requested.
That would be unfortunate. Its one thing to bellyache about an LGOC prohibition, yapping about 1A rights and "how can the forum be really pro-2A" and so forth. Its something else to post a polite, articulate, request for a narrowly tailored exception for extraordinary circumstances.

If the latter were completely ignored, it would cause me to shift policy in support of posters who followed the old rule, "Its better to ask forgiveness than permission."



Oh, by the way, Grape. Well done on the non-sequitur reply. You're really good at it; I admire your consistency. Maybe you can practice sequitur replies for a while.
 
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I don't think you understand how the forum works - any post, any post at all, may be reported (pro or con) and is thus forwarded direct to the administration. Believe me, this thread has been seen - you may not however get a direct response.
--snip--
Should consider all of the verbiage in comprehending the meaning.
 

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As usual, it looks like we have the usual Grapes and Apes that feel compelled to disagree. Too bad they don't have their own forums to lord over.
Signed. Resto Guy
 

EMNofSeattle

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Maybe we could get some attention by making this issue a petition on whitehouse.gov. I mean they have death star petitions and petitions to deport piers Morgan, so the system is already a joke
 

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Maybe we could get some attention by making this issue a petition on whitehouse.gov. I mean they have death star petitions and petitions to deport piers Morgan, so the system is already a joke
(chuckle)

No. I pretty much consider the issue dead. Either the owners have seen it by now and have decided "no", or Grapeshot was being deliberately vague about this thread being seen so as to mislead. In any event, if the owners did approve, I'm thinking they would have said something by now.
 

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Although I would not oc a long gun personally, I would not object to an additional thread regarding long guns. Perhaps place it between Open Carry Questions and True Tales.

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Or a single, stickied thread, in each state, where OC of long guns is allowed. With such a thread, any discussion of that is obstensibly about long gun OC....for instance the Oregon gentleman who OC's a pistol and a rifle....could be directed to "stay in their room". The alternative risks limiting discussion of a pertinent aspect of the current issues regarding the 2nd (and 4th) that affect ALL of us, even if we don't advocate or practice LGOC.

Is is the owners site and their call to make. I just think that it would be a reasonable way to accomodate discussion of issues that are relevant to the OC of handguns.....specifically, violations of the 4th amendment in the form of detainments, arrests, ID demands, and the like, issues which are common to both handgun and long gun carry.
 

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I personally think that OC of long guns is a stupid idea...but, no reason why people shouldn't be able to discuss it.

:arrow: Signed.
Nobody is saying they can't. Just that this is not the place. This is the place to discuss the normalization of open carry of handguns.
 

MikeTheGreek

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Nobody is saying they can't. Just that this is not the place. This is the place to discuss the normalization of open carry of handguns.
There are countless other random subjects being discussed daily in "The Social Lounge" but why is Long Gun OC still against the rules there? Not like there would be a whole section for it. Just a few threads here and there for people wanting to chat about it, just like it's another subject.

I'm sure it wouldn't take any focus away from handgun OC.
 

Grapeshot

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I personally think that OC of long guns is a stupid idea...but, no reason why people shouldn't be able to discuss it.

:arrow: Signed.
Nobody is saying they can't. Just that this is not the place. This is the place to discuss the normalization of open carry of handguns.
I understand that this gets tricky:

LONG GUN CARRY IS OFF-TOPIC: This web site is focused on the right to openly carry properly holstered handguns in daily American life. We do NOT promote the carry of long guns. Long guns are great! OCDO co-founders John & Mike and most of the members of this forum own at least one long gun - but due to urban area issues of muzzle control, lack of trigger guard coverage, and the fact that the long gun carry issue distracts from our main mission to promote the open carry of handguns in daily life, we will leave long gun carry activism in the capable hands of the future founders of web sites about long gun carry.
 
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