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Rapper Shoots Intruder

eye95

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So this raises a few questions. Maybe some Texans can shed light:

1. Does Texas have the Castle Doctrine?

2. Does the doctrine in Texas extend to the garage? IIRC, there have been some cases in some States where it did not, causing great trouble for the homeowner.

3. “Both men opened fire.” Who shot first? Who pointed his gun at whom first? If this turned into a traditional self-defense situation, then the Castle Doctrine could become moot.

4. Was the thug fleeing in the car? If he had the car moving, heading out of the garage, would it still be considered self-defense in Texas?

Personally, if the thug is already out of the home, in the car, trying to leave, I’m going to let him go and call 911. Everyone is now as safe as they were before the thug arrived at the door. It’s just a car. It’s insured. Call the cops, and let them deal with the thug.

However, it Texas law is OK with the homeowner shooting the thug, that’s cool. I want all potential thugs to worry about homeowners with firearms!
 

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Eye95, first it is great you show such loyalty to newspeek WHIO, even though you have been shown numerous times their copyrighted articles deviate from the original facts.

CBS
Bun B saw him in the driver's seat and fired shots at the suspect, police said, before the suspect tried to run. Bun B allegedly chased him and Bun B said he saw him take his mask off, but the suspect got away, police said.


Therefore eye95, the greater question is may Texans use deadly force to prevent the theft of property and chase after BG(s) while continuing to shoot at the BG’s back when they themselves life is not in danger!

Eye95, at least read the nra’s true stories instead of newspeek WHIO which has AGAIN-been shown to put out misinformation to its readership.
 

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Texas is the one state I'm aware of that under specific conditions one use deadly force to protect property .

If I'm reading this story right Queen gave the invader the keys out of fear.
Then when the invader went into the garage to steal the car told her husband who fired at the invader, in his car , in his garage.
All of that would be absolutely legal in TX.

My own understanding of the story is the rapper did not fire at the invader as he ran away but chased him long enough to ID him.

From the stories available that is a good shoot in Texas.
 

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Very informative. Thank you.

I did not know that Texas allows deadly force to protect property. I would not be a fan of such a law, but I would respect it. I would, however, never use deadly force to protect property. It’s just stuff. Replaceable stuff.

Any Texans with more details on using deadly force as it relates to this case? Thanks in advance.
 

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Texas is the one state I'm aware of that under specific conditions one use deadly force to protect property .

If I'm reading this story right Queen gave the invader the keys out of fear.
Then when the invader went into the garage to steal the car told her husband who fired at the invader, in his car , in his garage.
All of that would be absolutely legal in TX.

My own understanding of the story is the rapper did not fire at the invader as he ran away but chased him long enough to ID him.

From the stories available that is a good shoot in Texas.
To assist you ghost1858...Texas Penal Code 9.42 https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-9-42.html
 

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Snipped...
So this raises a few questions. Maybe some Texans can shed light:

1. Does Texas have the Castle Doctrine?

2. Does the doctrine in Texas extend to the garage? IIRC, there have been some cases in some States where it did not, causing great trouble for the homeowner.

3. “Both men opened fire.” Who shot first? Who pointed his gun at whom first? If this turned into a traditional self-defense situation, then the Castle Doctrine could become moot.

4. Was the thug fleeing in the car? If he had the car moving, heading out of the garage, would it still be considered self-defense in Texas?

Personally, if the thug is already out of the home, in the car, trying to leave, I’m going to let him go and call 911. Everyone is now as safe as they were before the thug arrived at the door. It’s just a car. It’s insured. Call the cops, and let them deal with the thug.

However, it Texas law is OK with the homeowner shooting the thug, that’s cool. I want all potential thugs to worry about homeowners with firearms!
Oh sorry apparently added by WHIO newspeek editors...
 

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Very informative. Thank you.

I did not know that Texas allows deadly force to protect property. I would not be a fan of such a law, but I would respect it. I would, however, never use deadly force to protect property. It’s just stuff. Replaceable stuff.

Any Texans with more details on using deadly force as it relates to this case? Thanks in advance.
TX isnt the only state that allows deadly force to protect property. But it allows it in a broader range of cases.

KY allows deadly force to prevent arson of dwelling or outbuildings. But property wise, stops there.
 

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Very informative. Thank you.

I did not know that Texas allows deadly force to protect property. I would not be a fan of such a law, but I would respect it. I would, however, never use deadly force to protect property. It’s just stuff. Replaceable stuff.

Any Texans with more details on using deadly force as it relates to this case? Thanks in advance.
What about the sentimental stuff that money can't buy, eye95? What about the stuff that we saved and earned for years from hard work to buy the items? Some of us are not as rich as you eye95
 

eye95

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I am not going to shoot someone over sentimental stuff. It is still just stuff.

And I am rich only in the sense that I am eternally grateful for the extent to which I have been blessed.
 

Ghost1958

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I was responding to comments about TX allowing deadly force to protect property.
Apologies.

Personally I'm not going to let some thug burn my house or even a shed.
If he his trying to enter my home or vehicle Ive no way of knowing what he's after. Nor required to by statute.
His presence is enough to warrant legal deadly force in KY and I'm believe the same holds true for Texas.
 

HP995

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17 posts and nobody bustarime? :whistle:

Neighborhood rappa
upstairs in da crappa,
when some skanky wannabe
thought he gonnabe a OG
bust through the front do
with a buttnaked fo fo.

Lady say please,
threw homie da keys.
Gave him my audi -
WTH, is this Saudi?
Dat chick laying down cash
from my own personal stash.

Wannabe done grabbakey,
wedge his skinny butt in the front seat,
play like he OG,
daydream he ain't some deadbeat buckwheat.

But this dawg hear all the commotion,
grab my magic potion,
start my locomotion
closing in on this ugly brother,
got a surprise for dat fugly mother.
Mess with my car, you betta be far.

He doing a Biden on the steering wheel,
got his hands all busy gettin a feel.
Rappa hold the piece sideways -
missed that punk rat's face,
but clip the shoulda anyways.

He mighta been sitting, or running?
Screw that. Original gangsta - I'm gunning.
Let the suits argue dat law,
Screw with this rappa you gonna fall.
Moral of the story, give the ladies what they need,
but keep the keys in yo own pocket please.

(c) HP995 - PG version :eek:
Lyrics are fiction for entertainment/parody purposes and do not represent the actual views of author or OCDO.
 

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Apologies.

Personally I'm not going to let some thug burn my house or even a shed.
If he his trying to enter my home or vehicle Ive no way of knowing what he's after. Nor required to by statute.
His presence is enough to warrant legal deadly force in KY and I'm believe the same holds true for Texas.
Thank you.

I understand your choice. I just couldn’t risk killing someone over stuff.
 

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Thank you.

I understand your choice. I just couldn’t risk killing someone over stuff.
Risk based on morals?

Taking someones life over property dates back before the founding of this country. They hung horse thieves. Horses were property. Stealing someones horse was stealing their livelihood. That was like killing the person themselves.
 
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