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'splan state level constitutional carry...

solus

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what does the buzz phrase 'constitutional carry' mean exactly when...
~ the ATF's Brady lists numerous states who citizens have privilege cards, er... "...permits qualify as alternatives to the background check requirements of the Brady law..." now does that mean these states who have become 'constitutional carry' their citizens must now endure the NICS background checks when purchasing firearms? [ https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart ]

~ who does the term apply to...only state citizens or includes visitors, aliens, non card carrying immigrants?

~ what hidden nuances are involved or have been put in place, e.g., the Lonestar state 'allowed' it's citizens to OC with a privilege card and authorized LEs to immediately go into a 'papers' mode upon seeing an OC'd handgun?

~ why were the privilege cards not taken off their books completely instead of new statutory laws for 'enhanced' privilege cards, ad nauseam?

~ which take precedence over US citizens...the Founding Fathers' Constitution or the State governance?

a sidebar...what are all these LE agencies and ancillary organizations, e.g., mental health orgs, going to do from the lost revenue from citizens getting/renewing their state level privilege cards to conceal their SD handgun? oh and let's not forget the rise in unemployment from the 100s of state workers processing the privilege cards...whew!

things to make you say hummmm...
 

mnrobitaille

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what does the buzz phrase 'constitutional carry' mean exactly when...
~ the ATF's Brady lists numerous states who citizens have privilege cards, er... "...permits qualify as alternatives to the background check requirements of the Brady law..." now does that mean these states who have become 'constitutional carry' their citizens must now endure the NICS background checks when purchasing firearms? [ https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart ]

~ who does the term apply to...only state citizens or includes visitors, aliens, non card carrying immigrants?

~ what hidden nuances are involved or have been put in place, e.g., the Lonestar state 'allowed' it's citizens to OC with a privilege card and authorized LEs to immediately go into a 'papers' mode upon seeing an OC'd handgun?

~ why were the privilege cards not taken off their books completely instead of new statutory laws for 'enhanced' privilege cards, ad nauseam?

~ which take precedence over US citizens...the Founding Fathers' Constitution or the State governance?

a sidebar...what are all these LE agencies and ancillary organizations, e.g., mental health orgs, going to do from the lost revenue from citizens getting/renewing their state level privilege cards to conceal their SD handgun? oh and let's not forget the rise in unemployment from the 100s of state workers processing the privilege cards...whew!

things to make you say hummmm...
In most all the now 25 states which are constitutional carry, both residents & non-residents of the state are allowed to carry. For awhile Wyoming only allowed residents to carry permitless, but that got changed to allow all.

One of the big problems, as you stated is that the carrying of firearms is governed at the state level (in some circumstances, within the local level) instead of federally. There's a myriad of rules & regulations that vary from one state to the next. What's legal in one state is not legal in another (magazine capacity limits, as example). In some states, one can carry into a bar/tavern, while in others not allowed.

From what I've seen, the states that are constitutional carry still issue CPL/CWL/LTC for those that do travel outside the state, &/or to maintain the ability to skip the background check.
 
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