The effectiveness of defensive shooting, data

[The Truth]

Anyone here seen this? Someone posted to a thread I've been lurking on good ol' Facebook and made the claim that it's the "end all be all to all gun arguments." I thought that was a pretty strong statement to make.

http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf

 

[solus]

first good or bad end all?

quote: The idea that firearms are frequently used in self-defense is the primary argument that the gun lobby and firearms industry use to expand the carrying of firearms into an ever-increasing number of public spaces and even to prevent the regulation of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines. Yet this argument is hollow and the assertions false. unquote.

sorry background material is highly suspect as generated by self serving researchers and a cursory review of the data doesn't show the correlation the Joyce (chicago based) and Herb Block (DC based) foundations believes it does.


I shan't quote Eliza Gutch saying which has been incorrectly attributed to TWAIN...but much to ado about nada and poorly done at that (really, whomever approved this document and paid the grant based on this twaddle should have the money taken from their personal paycheck as the published document is horrible and apparently without peer merit).

ipse

 

[The Truth]

I think a lot of simpletons see 8k+ criminal homicides next to <1k justifiable homicides and immediately, albeit ignorantly, conclude that "good guy with a gun" is a myth.

 

[The Truth]

My simple brain is trying to formulate an effective way to communicate that these numbers and data are not science and one cannot reach an accurate conclusion based on these numbers. At the very least, it is impossible to support the claim that GGWAG is a myth based on available data, or as I like to call them, "multiple anecdotes."

 

[Ezek]

how about instead of GGWAG, it is ME WITH A GUN can keep ME safe. screw everyone else who decided they wanted to be perfect victim material that day.

and by that I mean I keep ME safe with a gun, YOU keep YOU safe with a gun, it is not MY job to provide YOU security. that is YOUR responsibility.

 

[nonameisgood]

And of course this all ignored the greater reason for us to all have guns - keeping the government in its place. At least in theory.


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[davidmcbeth]

And of course this all ignored the greater reason for us to all have guns - keeping the government in its place. At least in theory.


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Look at what the governments do now, when we have guns.

What do you think that they would be doing if we didn't have guns? We would have tracking rods up our bums already.

So I think that ownership already has effects.

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

It is put out by the VPC tells me all I need to know about it.

Go here a lot of good research on the number things

http://www.gunwatch.blogspot.com/

Might take some searching but it is there

 

[MamaLiberty]

Doesn't matter why, really, but nobody attempted to attack me today. That's a "win" any day.

But the people who think they own us want to confiscate our guns because they truly want to do things to us that we won't allow as long as we have guns.

Another excellent reason to own and carry a gun...