Primus
Regular Member
This topic came up when some guys were talking about defending your self against someone with a knife. I immediately thought of this drill and wasn't sure if other guys have tried it or heard of it.
The Tueller Drill is basically a drill set up to demonstrate a person standing in front of you with a knife, Your firearm is holstered (OCd) and they decide to attack you. The study was done by a SGT withe the Salt Lake City PD and later by the FBI I believe. He basically timed people sprinting to a target and then timed people drawing and firing their firearm. He was able to come up with a distance of 21 feet. That means the person would need to be AT LEAST 21 feet away for you to have the time to draw your firearm and shoot effectively. Now think about this... 21 feet. that's pretty far. How often do people get within that range of you? I would say everyday day. If a person is walking towards you on the same side of the street , they will pass you within a few feet. If they decided to pull a knife and rob you from 3 feet away, what do you do? Essentially them being 3 feet away with a knife means you will get stabbed or cut before you ever fire a shot.
Why does this matter? Two things. 1) TRAIN. Do this drill. I've posted a video of 1 version of the drill. They use a target on wheels and pull it towards the person. Simulates an attacker running at you. 2) It's important to realize how much distance matters when dealing with people.
I encourage (challenge) you guys to try this...... Stand facing a target. Doesn't matter the distance. Have a person stand directly behind you holding a rag or heavy item. On their go, they will start sprinting away from you (safe direction away from down range). This will be your cue to draw your firearm and fire 2 shots into the target. Of the sound of the shots, the person running drops the rag or item. Turn around and see the distance from you. That is how far they have to be away for you to avoid getting stabbed. ADD a few feet to account for people still run when they are shot unless you get a prefect cranium shot.
Also, this matters on how you carry your firearm. When you OC, do you use retention holster? What style? Where is your holster? Drop Leg? For those that use Cross Draw, you will see quickly why it's not a good idea with this drill. Do you ever CC on occasion? How do you carry that? Appendix carry? Inner Waist Band? On your hip or towards your back?
Try all of these. After you try it a few times change it up. Stand there with your hands where you normally have them (either belt height, pockets, etc.) and "talk to the target". Train as if your telling that BG you have a frearm and you don't wan your family involved. Then just have the person run with no warning.
I encourage guys to post your results from these drills in this thread. Even better post a video of it. I'll even attempt to kick it off by shooting a video of me and my guys this week and post it. Below is just one good example of this drill (not me).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmZj6dYrNzk
Prepare for the worst hope for the best.
The Tueller Drill is basically a drill set up to demonstrate a person standing in front of you with a knife, Your firearm is holstered (OCd) and they decide to attack you. The study was done by a SGT withe the Salt Lake City PD and later by the FBI I believe. He basically timed people sprinting to a target and then timed people drawing and firing their firearm. He was able to come up with a distance of 21 feet. That means the person would need to be AT LEAST 21 feet away for you to have the time to draw your firearm and shoot effectively. Now think about this... 21 feet. that's pretty far. How often do people get within that range of you? I would say everyday day. If a person is walking towards you on the same side of the street , they will pass you within a few feet. If they decided to pull a knife and rob you from 3 feet away, what do you do? Essentially them being 3 feet away with a knife means you will get stabbed or cut before you ever fire a shot.
Why does this matter? Two things. 1) TRAIN. Do this drill. I've posted a video of 1 version of the drill. They use a target on wheels and pull it towards the person. Simulates an attacker running at you. 2) It's important to realize how much distance matters when dealing with people.
I encourage (challenge) you guys to try this...... Stand facing a target. Doesn't matter the distance. Have a person stand directly behind you holding a rag or heavy item. On their go, they will start sprinting away from you (safe direction away from down range). This will be your cue to draw your firearm and fire 2 shots into the target. Of the sound of the shots, the person running drops the rag or item. Turn around and see the distance from you. That is how far they have to be away for you to avoid getting stabbed. ADD a few feet to account for people still run when they are shot unless you get a prefect cranium shot.
Also, this matters on how you carry your firearm. When you OC, do you use retention holster? What style? Where is your holster? Drop Leg? For those that use Cross Draw, you will see quickly why it's not a good idea with this drill. Do you ever CC on occasion? How do you carry that? Appendix carry? Inner Waist Band? On your hip or towards your back?
Try all of these. After you try it a few times change it up. Stand there with your hands where you normally have them (either belt height, pockets, etc.) and "talk to the target". Train as if your telling that BG you have a frearm and you don't wan your family involved. Then just have the person run with no warning.
I encourage guys to post your results from these drills in this thread. Even better post a video of it. I'll even attempt to kick it off by shooting a video of me and my guys this week and post it. Below is just one good example of this drill (not me).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmZj6dYrNzk
Prepare for the worst hope for the best.