That would have been the end.And yes, we could easily have won the day. But we are not fighting for the day. We are fighting for the end.
Short story-- last year we were able to get 44 out of 45 gun control bills killed. The other one died in the financial analysis review.You are absolutely right Nemo except this VCDL Lobby day social event has been going on for how many years?
partially/fully failing at your publicized activity after so many years is in no way better than doing nothing...
No, I don't do engineer stuff. I do political stuff that gets things done.squawking about how others did not do enough ~ i guess you are not familiar with process/change engineers [six sigma/lean activities] or quality professionals and their purpose in manufacturing/project management to assure events/projects/etc meet repeatable & established criteria thus assuring "customers/organizational/ad nauseam" needs are met within established ROI guidelines. these folks get payed big $$$ as the save organizational monies, assure contractional obligations are met!
Planner, organizer, team leader, lobbyistyour function in the Lobby activity?
Once again, I ask to see if you are anything more than the guy who sits on the sideline griping about how inadequate the results from those that are doing something.Nemo, what right do you believe gives you this presumption to ask ~ publicly, then continue to demand a response about my advocacy activities? My activities have been and will continue to be private and personally achieved known only to those close cohorts who have a need to know.
therefore, i will not facilitate nor entertain any further nonsensical commentary about the subject so please cease as your self-fulling my pappy's adage!
nemo, last year is the memories of the past and if someone like myself or you yourself provided the candid material from the insider individual who pointed out items this outsider had no knowledge of, is pointing out inadequacies in results means sir you didn't get things done this year, e.g., red flag legislation as a prime example!Short story-- last year we were able to get 44 out of 45 gun control bills killed. The other one died in the financial analysis review.
No, I don't do engineer stuff. I do political stuff that gets things done.
Planner, organizer, team leader, lobbyist
Once again, I ask to see if you are anything more than the guy who sits on the sideline griping about how inadequate the results from those that are doing something.
And again, you confirm it.
sorry nemo i have been sharing invaluable tidbits based on tried and true business tactics used around the world, however the major one, acknowledging the inadequacies so organizationally the causation can be collectively determined, so the inadequacies can be mitigated appropriately, is falling on deaf ears cuz your ego kicked in the defenses of "we succeeded" & "how dare you criticize..." thus injecting extreme bias and eliminating any true, reality-based analyzation of the event.Yes they are still working on the other side and we are still working on the good side. The battle continues and we know some will be lost, some will be won. The ones we lose will be brought back and fought on other fields.
And we will still be following/fighting the law as far as possible until we get it changed by proper methods.
Can we win them all? Only if you share your vast knowledge of the means, methods and intracies of lobbying and legislating. Until then we will continue in our fight.
As solus said, that is old news. What you seem to refuse to understand is when you had the opportunity to enforce the second amendment you (collectively) folded. You had the nation come to your defense and you failed to take advantage of that rare moment. Signs everywhere proclaiming "WE WILL NOT COMPLY" and everyone there complied. A civil war was fought to end slavery and in the end you accepted slavery with open arms.Short story-- last year we were able to get 44 out of 45 gun control bills killed. The other one died in the financial analysis review.