deepdiver
Campaign Veteran
I found Bob Owens write up of the more tactical aspects (for lack of a better term) of the would-be, now DRT, terrorists in Garland, TX interesting. Two shooters armed with carbines taken out in 15 seconds by one trained (presumably OC) shooter with a Glock 45 acp starting at about 20 yard engagement distance.
Now, I know from experience that even mildly experienced shooters can rip out the center of a B-27 target with a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 at 25 yards. That these BGs were bad shooters is pretty well established just by the nearly non-existent damage they caused. On the other hand, we also know that most active shooter nut-jobs aren't terribly well trained or capable. I think the particulars of this incident give some indication that yes, a well-practiced armed citizen could also neutralize such a threat. That isn't all or everyone or every situation, but it does give us an example to throw back when antis challenge that a guy with a handgun can't stop a guy with a rifle.
Thoughts? (I am focusing here on an example of the effective defensive use of a handgun against 2 carbine-armed BGs)
http://bearingarms.com/pushed-forwa...-officer-advanced-brought-garland-terrorists/
Now, I know from experience that even mildly experienced shooters can rip out the center of a B-27 target with a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 at 25 yards. That these BGs were bad shooters is pretty well established just by the nearly non-existent damage they caused. On the other hand, we also know that most active shooter nut-jobs aren't terribly well trained or capable. I think the particulars of this incident give some indication that yes, a well-practiced armed citizen could also neutralize such a threat. That isn't all or everyone or every situation, but it does give us an example to throw back when antis challenge that a guy with a handgun can't stop a guy with a rifle.
Thoughts? (I am focusing here on an example of the effective defensive use of a handgun against 2 carbine-armed BGs)
http://bearingarms.com/pushed-forwa...-officer-advanced-brought-garland-terrorists/
At the point of the attack, the two suspects apparently drove up and opened fire upon an unarmed security guard who was accompanied by a 60-year-old Garland police officer. The unarmed guard was struck the volley of gunfire. The veteran Garland officer then drew his duty-issue Glock pistol and opened fire on the suspects.
The officer killed one terrorist and wounded the other in his initial volley of return fire. Witnesses claim there was a brief pause, and then the officer fire two more shots to kill the still-moving terrorist as he appears to be reaching for a backpack. The entire event lasted 15 seconds, with heavily-armed Garland SWAT converging on the scene immediately afterward.