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WSJ - Dr. to Patient: Do You Have a Gun?

Va_Nemo

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Well doc, I used to. But I had to sell them both to help pay for my scripts. But I am trying to build one like you see on youtube. Ever look at that doc?

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I just saw my doctor a few days ago. While checking my lung sounds he noticed my empty holster. He said, "Oh, you're one of those concealed carriers". He then sat at his computer and told me, " I just bought a handgun. I don't feel as safe as I used to." He's been my doctor for about 20 years. Next trip I'll ask if he wants to go target shooting ...
 

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Since I retired from the Army (1991) and started having to go to civilian doctors, I have been asked that question only once by a doctor. The question was on one of the forms I had to fill out and I left it blank. When I got in to see her, she was absolutely livid that I had not answered that question and, quite aggressively, informed me that I had to answer it as it was the law. When I was finally able to quit laughing, I grabbed my forms, further infuriating her, and left. Found another, far less confrontational and far less nosy, doctor. Bottom line is this: The doctor can ask any question they wish to. If that question is not directly connected to the reason you are seeing the doctor, nothing says you have to answer them.
 

JTHunter2

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Here in Illinois, some doctor's offices, hospitals, nursing homes, etc. are, for the most part, "posted" and those little signs have the "force of law" behind them. Ignore the sign and you can lose your CCP. But that may also be why most doctors around here don't ask questions like that.
 

color of law

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Here in Illinois, some doctor's offices, hospitals, nursing homes, etc. are, for the most part, "posted" and those little signs have the "force of law" behind them. Ignore the sign and you can lose your CCP. But that may also be why most doctors around here don't ask questions like that.
But, you could not expect less in a communist state?
 

since9

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Since I retired from the Army (1991) and started having to go to civilian doctors, I have been asked that question only once by a doctor. The question was on one of the forms I had to fill out and I left it blank. When I got in to see her, she was absolutely livid that I had not answered that question and, quite aggressively, informed me that I had to answer it as it was the law.
Obviously, she's wrong. No local, federal, or state law compels any law-abiding citizen to answer that question to a doctor, at least not in this universe. In fact, in roughly half the states, you don't even have to answer that question to law enforcement, with the sole exception of a traffic stop.

When I was finally able to quit laughing, I grabbed my forms, further infuriating her, and left. Found another, far less confrontational and far less nosy, doctor.
I'm not sure what it is about women doctors. I've encountered three women doctors and one woman endodontist. Of the four, three were certifiable, and two were pushy about asserting their authority as a doctor to get me to make a choice that was contraindicated. One of them went ballistic when I thanked her for her offering me her expert opinion, but refused her recommended course of treatment.

Bottom line is this: The doctor can ask any question they wish to. If that question is not directly connected to the reason you are seeing the doctor, nothing says you have to answer them.
Exactly.
 

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There was an orthopedic specialist that I needed years ago and, because of one of his pictures framed on his walls, we got to talking. It was of him with a NICE buck he had taken a few years before so we had good conversations during my course of treatment. :)
 

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I'm not sure what it is about women doctors. I've encountered three women doctors and one woman endodontist. Of the four, three were certifiable, and two were pushy about asserting their authority as a doctor to get me to make a choice that was contraindicated. One of them went ballistic when I thanked her for her offering me her expert opinion, but refused her recommended course of treatment.



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It's not, fortunately, all women doctors. The young lady who is my primary care physician and the young woman who is my cardiologist are both sweethearts and both strive to give me the very best of care. Some of the male doctors I have seen over the last twenty-seven years have been as bad, if not worse, than that one woman doctor.
 
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since9

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It's not, fortunately, all women doctors. The young lady who is my primary care physician and the young woman who is my cardiologist are both sweethearts and both strive to give me the very best of care. Some of the male doctors I have seen over the last twenty-seven years have been as bad, if not worse, than that one woman doctor.
Yer lucky, man! Aye, I've encountered excellent professionals of both sexes. No slight intended. My luck of the draw in the physician sphere hasn't been the best. But I've worked with many excellent female professionals in other spheres, most notably in aviation.
 

Karl

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I certainly don't need an anti-gun MD judging me for daring to have multiple loaded pistols in my home for self defense. I used to carry a Glock in my car as well. Did med school teach them anything about gun safety other than you can't get shoot yourself if you lack a gun?
 

since9

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They don't mean to kill .... but I assume when they do that they still get paid for their work. What would that make those doctors?
You mean like a mechanic who charges you an extra $35 to tap the oil drain plug threads he stripped because he failed to use a torque wrench?

Generally speaking, doctors are just as interested in both repeat business and good reviews as anyone, including mechanics.
 

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As a practical matter, how could this be an issue. If I go in for my quarterly examination, I take the gun off and lay it on the doc's counter, along with keys, wallet, etc., since the pants are coming down. How could he not know I have a gun?

But if one wished to keep it secret, I suppose he'd avoid carrying in the doc's office. In which case, the question might require answers to two preliminary questions: 1) is this doc licensed as a psychiatrist or psychologist such that an answer could conceivably be related to some issue comprehended within the scope of his license? and 2) is this doc licensed as an attorney such that any answer would be privileged? If the answer to either question is negative, then there is no point in answering the interrogation.
 
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