CharlesC wrote:They know you have a CCP from running your license plate.How do the officers know I have a CCP? Do they get that data when they run my license or my plates? Did the officer know I was armed when he walked up or latter? (I did notice that he stayed well back of my door when asking for my license and registration.
How does an officer feel when they see it pop up on the computer that someone they pulled over or whatever has a CCP? Are they more apprehensive or do they feel better knowing that people with a CCP have had a background check and are less likely to be a problem?
He probably stayed well back from your door on purpose. Did you see both his hands? One was probably on his firearm in case you made any sudden moves.
It's been my experience that the fact that you had a background check, means next to nothing to them. It ought to mean a lot but it doesn't. You have a gun. That's what matters. That's why he called backup.
On occasion, I drive a car that's not registered in my name. I've been pulled over where I forgot to mention I have a concealed carry permit. They take my license and run it and see I've got a permit. They always call for backup after this. It freaks them out to know that they walked up on a car where the driver had a permit and they didn't know about it. You're not obligated by law to tell them you have a permit, nor to tell them that you're armed. That doesn't seem to matter though.
Do you have a lawyer on retainer? If not, get one. The last time I was in a traffic stop, I called my lawyer while they ran my license.
They called for backup, and I called for backup. Hahaha.
The second cop who showed up tried to lie to me and tell me I was obligated by law to show my permit. I asked him to speak to my lawyer on the phone. The cop literally ran away.
That moment is when I realized, having a lawyer on retainer is the biggest caliber gun you can carry. Otherwise, I'm sure they would have ordered me out of the car and searched me in violation of my rights. When they ask you out of the car, get them to clarify if it's an order or a request. If it's an order, get them to tell you why they're ordering you out. And always get everything on tape.
If you don't tell them you have a permit, you should realize there will be consequences. You have no legal obligation. That ought to protect you but it won't. The police can use their discretion to punish you and they will do so. Standing up for your rights can and will be painful. Admitting you have a permit and are armed is giving up your fifth amendment rights. You never know if that might be used against you later on. Here is a good video on the value of the fifth amendment. It's worth it's weight in gold.