Anyone else anticipate riots?

[Ezerharden]

I disagree, the popular vote needs to be eliminated. The EC returned to each individual member making up their own mind who should be president. A president should be chosen, NOT be a choice.

Um eliminate the popular vote? Really? And let a handful of people choose the President? No, eliminate the EC, and let the people truly decide as it should be under a Democracy.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Um eliminate the popular vote? Really? And let a handful of people choose the President? No, eliminate the EC, and let the people truly decide as it should be under a Democracy.

The popular vote goes to the highest bidder, it is flawed for presidential elections, and it affects how the President does the job. It is why we are in a mess.

 

[Small_Arms_Collector]

Both parties are to blame for this horrible turd fest. Under Bush Jr. Fast and furious began as operation Linebacker if memory serves correct? It is clear that neither majory party is playing honest ball with we the people. Ron Paul 2016!!!

Actually linebacker had some actual attempt at tracking, it wasn't just about running guns to Mexico like Fast, and Furious.

 

[Ezerharden]

The popular vote goes to the highest bidder, it is flawed for presidential elections, and it affects how the President does the job. It is why we are in a mess.

And the EC doesn't? Lets see buy off 4 million citizens or 270 EC reps, which is cheaper?

 

[Small_Arms_Collector]

Linebacker started and ended in 07',with Mex gov notification(there side of the border interdiction of guns),when ATF agents were unable to follow guns to the border(where Mex gov would interdict) due to lack of personel,which was ended by same lawyers in Fast&Furious(DOJ). Fast & Furious was started in 09' while Obama,Holder and Clinton made the 90% statements,in public.There never was any intention of ATF agents following the guns to the border and no Mex gov involvement at all.They expected the traces of these guns at crime scenes in Mexico(they forgot about U.S crime scenes) to back their 90% statements in 09' to push gun-control and blame the 2A!
P.S. Katie Pavlich wrote a book on F&F with all the dates,facts,emails and FOIA info in 12'!

This.

 

[Small_Arms_Collector]

It has nothing to do with being a RINO, the fact is the demographics are shifting in America and unless the GOP changes their platform they not going to win a Presidential election for a long time. The alienation of hispanics will continue to be the demise of the GOP, and unless they find a way to bring them on board they are in big trouble. Texas will be majority hispanic within 20 years, and Florida may too, so if you have the Democrat candidate winning FL, TX, CA, NY there is no way for GOP to win.

What needs to happen is the electoral college needs to be eliminated, all is does is disenfranchise voters and hand control to a few swing states. Republicans in CA, NY, IL ect.. have no reason to even vote, they know there is no way they will matter. Same is true for democrats in deep red states.

The "hispanic vote" is the illegal alien vote, don't be fooled. The only thing that will bring them on board is open borders, and more welfare, the opposite of what a Conservative, or Republican is.

The Electoral College was designed specifically so people DON'T get disenfranchised, otherwise the only states that would matter would be the more populous ones, I.E. California, New York, New Jersey, etc. what do they all have in common? Think your vote doesn't matter now? A direct democracy is tyranny of the majority, it's like 2 wolves, and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. The Electoral College is one of our checks, and balances.

 

[WalkingWolf]

And the EC doesn't? Lets see buy off 4 million citizens or 270 EC reps, which is cheaper?

Exactly! The EC is still chosen by the people, they chose the states representatives who in turn pick who is in the EC. The thing it changes is that the president is chosen, there is no need for political parties. NO campaigning turning the country upside down, and NO promises have to be made to buy votes. It would be more like hiring an administrator of government, which is what it was intended.

 

[smellslikemichigan]

Her Police are more of a threat to her than this Guy. Why would she call them? They have made it clear that they want her and her "F-ing rights" to disappear. She is on their "list".:uhoh:
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...dvocate-needs-our-help-to-fight-bogus-charges!

good point

 

[Shoobee]

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The Electoral College was designed specifically so people DON'T get disenfranchised, otherwise the only states that would matter would be the more populous ones, I.E. California, New York, New Jersey, etc. what do they all have in common? Think your vote doesn't matter now? A direct democracy is tyranny of the majority, it's like 2 wolves, and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. The Electoral College is one of our checks, and balances.

Your anachronism about California (1849) being noted, the Electoral College was more about protecting the political strength of the less populous states, by compromising over the elector numbers consisting of Senate seats (2) plus House seats (depends on the census).

Ergo it was not about democracy at all, it was about intra-state political rivalry.

It is the Bill Of Rights and subsequent Amendments that are intended to protect the minority from the majority. So you get a C+ for at least knowing about it although not a B or an A because you got all confused and muddled in your thinking and recollection.

 

[Shoobee]

Um eliminate the popular vote? Really? And let a handful of people choose the President? No, eliminate the EC, and let the people truly decide as it should be under a Democracy.

When the Red team benefitted, as in Gore v. Bush, they loved the EC to death, with loads of hugs and kisses.

Now that those days are passed, they know longer kiss their oldie anymore huh?

Since Obama won the popular vote by 50.4% vs Romney's 48% the EC is not an issue anymore.

Romney lost either way, whether by EC or by a direct popular vote.