Call to oppose PATRIOT act Renewal -- today!

[j4l]

Actually under CINCOS, the Army's MOS 97G was deleted in 1997, and positions were rolled into/transferred to MOS 96B, 97B and 98K...

Just sayin'...

Was long gone and on to other things by then. Good try though.

 

[Dreamer]

Oh yeah, and there are NO black helicopters, that are invisible to radar and nearly acoustically silent...

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/top-s...-program-revealed-osama-bin/story?id=13530693


Oops...

Where did that cat come from, and why is there an empty bag on the floor?

 

[j4l]

Next victim, please? Take a number. The beatings can be handed out in the morning when I wake.
Bring your tissues, and have your therapist on speed-dial.

 

[j4l]

"USAICS--yeah, some mighty tough operators come out of that program. I'm relieved to know that some future IT-manager with an "expert marksman" badge in MCSE is guarding our rights, and bringing clarity and liberty to this forum. Thank you for your servers..."

At least attempt to google properly. For all your research integrity by which you butter your hole, you'd think you could maybe /sorta get the right base,program and occupation?

 

[j4l]

I make pillows for hobby.

Can I borrow one? Dreamer's wet-dreaming is putting me to sleep here?

 

[Dreamer]

At least attempt to google properly. For all your research integrity by which you butter your hole, you'd think you could maybe /sorta get the right base,program and occupation?

Yeah, you're right. They don't have anything at all to do with information systems, networking, or IT at Huaschuca, and I'm the one who is just making stuff up...

http://www.huachuca.army.mil/site/Visitor/index.asp

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/isec.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Network_Enterprise_Technology_Command_%28NETCOM%29/9th_Army_Signal_Command


In all honesty, I think it's a travesty that the VA has such poor programs for continuing mental health care for veterans who could benefit from such services...

 

[j4l]

Yeah, you're right. They don't have anything at all to do with information systems, networking, or IT at Huaschuca, and I'm the one who is just making stuff up...

http://www.huachuca.army.mil/site/Visitor/index.asp

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/isec.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Network_Enterprise_Technology_Command_%28NETCOM%29/9th_Army_Signal_Command


In all honesty, I think it's a travesty that the VA has such poor programs for continuing mental health care for veterans who could benefit from such services...

That's for the Signal Bde, you goof. They arent the IC and they have nothing to do with the Activity whatsoever. Try looking a couple clicks west and north.

 

[j4l]

And, all else aside..why are you even still bothering to type?

""He is either a well-trained disinformation agent under Cass Sunstein's "cognitive infiltration" program, or he is a well-read and well-trained freelance globalist agent provocateur."

The End.

 

[sharkey]

SNIPPED AND HYPERLINKS ADDED :lol: ..........

The folks they are looking for are specifically trained to avoid detection and capture by operating within the loopholes and safeguards of those laws pre-Patriot Act. They exploit these freedoms we enjoy because they view them as a weekness they can use against us, and enable themselves to slip in, and live amongst us.

What they exploit is our willingness to bankrupt our nation morally and financially.

 

[sharkey]

Without even considering the legitimacy of the wording of the questions it is moot.

This is a republic.

I hate some of the crap that is asserted, such as, that the Patriot Act was "forced" on Americans.

"Patriot Act
Yes No Extend Patriot Act 59% 39%"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/PollVault/story?id=833703

http://www.gallup.com/poll/9205/public-little-concerned-about-patriot-act.aspx

There are plenty of 'polls' that indicated, at the time, that the Patriot Act was supported by a large number of Americans...greater than 60%. Which these days is a pretty good size of the population that agree on a damn thing.

The Patriot Act should not be reintroduced, and extended, but hey, just the opinion of a lone quazi-middle-class individual who is neck deep in homework, reading, and my own economic BS than to worry about whether or not the Government is tapping my phone, and listening in on me talk dirty to my partner when I am out of town, late on a Friday night, and nothing better to do

 

[sharkey]

Section 102 is cowardice.

"whether or not concerning a United States person" repeated over and over

 

[Dreamer]

Section 102 is cowardice.

"whether or not concerning a United States person" repeated over and over

Of special note is the use of the word "person". A "person" is a VERY different legal entity from a "human" or a "citizen".

A "person" is a legal construct, not a physical entity. When you understand that, the "Patriot Act" starts to have a very different meaning with regards to whom it applies, and the level of authority the US Government has over "your" life...

 

[slowfiveoh]

As did our other "serviceman" who-by the way, opened his own door to being called out when attempting to claim SF contact/knowledge he plainly lacked.
So you bet yer ass he got called out on it, and hard.

You didn't call out anything son.

I worked in close conjunction with SF teams to do clean-up on patrols in several Iraqi villages.

I never said "I WORK WITH SF ALL DAY BRO!". I said, "I worked with them in limited exposure.". In fact, my platoon sergeant was injured prior SF (Permanent profile for knee ligaments) who just "hung out" with our unit per transfer to get his full 20.

It's quite silly the units I worked specifically with aren't on the ARCENT order of march either.

You really just run your mouth and dig your own grave. Keep it up. It's hilarious.


By the way, I'm in this picture. So your "servicemember" comment is pure bs in its insinuation that I did not:

There is a LOT in this picture that tells you:

A.) When I was in Iraq
B.) When I was standing in BIAP terminals
C.) What units I may have been associated with

Hrmm interesting that my unit patches are missing....


What about you motormouth? You have any pictures?

Actually under CINCOS, the Army's MOS 97G was deleted in 1997, and positions were rolled into/transferred to MOS 96B, 97B and 98K...

Just sayin'...

Hence the word "worked".

That MOS is MI Corp btw, not Sig.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

"rather than confront your disagreement on its merits."
Why this assumption that just because someone says something-that there's any "merit" to it? When/if I encounter some, I address it as such. Not happening though, with a crybaby conspiracy-theorist academia wannabe.

Rafter in your own eye?

 

[sudden valley gunner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNRSs6LsGeI&feature=related

We must fight any and every government intrusion into our liberty. When are we going to say enough is enough. I don't give a damn whether or not it "provides" some safety. I would rather be free than chained by unconstitutional governmental regulations.

 

[nobama]

+1 !! isnt there a quote? " people who vote for security over freedom deserve neither. " I think Ben Franklin said that. That quote needs to be said over and over.

 

[RetiredOC]

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

Without even considering the legitimacy of the wording of the questions it is moot.

This is a republic.

Of course it is moot, since we are not in the midst of a Democracy . *I may have misunderstood your first line. Are you stating that the 'wording' should be considered, or that the premise that we are a Democracy, and should be a Democracy makes the point moot?

http://www.williampmeyers.org/republic.html

http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm

They are both obviously biased, but one seems to be in favor of Democracy, and the other in favor of a Republic. We really should discuss the differences between the two, so readers who are not aware of the differences understand what the hell a Democracy, and a Republic are, how they are different, where they overlap, and what consequences of each are.

 

[sharkey]

I simply meant the poll was moot as we don't live in a tyranny of the majority..........yet

Wording refers to poll questions, i.e. how skewed or balanced they are.

I'll follow your links now :lol:

Of course it is moot, since we are not in the midst of a Democracy . *I may have misunderstood your first line. Are you stating that the 'wording' should be considered, or that the premise that we are a Democracy, and should be a Democracy makes the point moot?

http://www.williampmeyers.org/republic.html

http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm

They are both obviously biased, but one seems to be in favor of Democracy, and the other in favor of a Republic. We really should discuss the differences between the two, so readers who are not aware of the differences understand what the hell a Democracy, and a Republic are, how they are different, where they overlap, and what consequences of each are.

 

[since9]

+1 !! isnt there a quote? " people who vote for security over freedom deserve neither. " I think Ben Franklin said that. That quote needs to be said over and over.

It's a great quote, but Ben never actually said it. It was simply attributed to him many years ago, and it sort of stuck.