eye95
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You talk to a supervisor when a K-Mart employee is rude to you. When someone assaults you with a deadly weapon, you seek criminal and civil remedies.
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You talk to a supervisor when a K-Mart employee is rude to you. When someone assaults you with a deadly weapon, you seek criminal and civil remedies.
That may be true for John Q. Public if they pulled a weapon on ya...
Nope. That's true for anyone who commits a violent crime against me. I don't talk to their supervisor. I press criminal charges and seek civil remedies. Period. Feel free to handle it however you choose. I just believe that the law exists primarily to protect us from violence, so the law is the tool I will use against it, not some internal complaint system. Again, period.
In other words what you are saying is that you would have protected yourself by drawing and fire at the cop since it is lawful to protect yourself even by deadly force? BTW, I noticed you didn't say anything about the opinion part I put in my last reply. This thread was to find out what people would do in this situation not getting everyone in an uproar. So please let it be that. Your opinion is just that, neither right or wrong just like mine.
Please don't say that I said things that I did not. I don't discuss with folks who use such underhanded tactics. I choose my words carefully and I said what I said, nothing more and nothing less.
Were a LEO to do to me what the OP reported was done to him, I would press criminal charges and seek a civil remedy also. Period.
Oh, and the fact that I have the whole thing recorded will mean that I have excellent cases, both civil and criminal, against the thug who assaulted me with a deadly weapon--a felony, BTW.
Guess you didn't see the question mark at the end of that sentence. That is what you would do, neither right or wrong, just like mine, neither right or wrong.
Moving on.
Sry. Lol. Any way. I pulled over and was asked over the PA to exit the vehicle and move to the rear of my truck. No big deal right? About the time I get there he is exiting his vehicle. I saw his eyes drop to my side arm. I knew what was coming by how big his eyes had gotten.
He dropped his clip board and drew on me. I'm well trained both on my own and by the military. Being on the buisiness end of a firearm is a serious situation to be in. I o ly hesitated because he was a LEO. I know my abilities and this could have gone much worse. I have tremendous respect for law enforcement , but t that moment I was in fear of my life
This is obviously a fake post. A LEO rarely orders someone out of their car to meet with them during a traffic stop unless its a felony stop. During a normal stop, it would be more dangerous for both officer and driver. Unless this was the officer's first day, I'm sure he has been in many situations where someone has been around him with a holstered gun. And the biggest reason why I know this post is fake is because of this part of the story "He dropped his clip board and drew on me.". No officer approaches a traffic stop with a clip board in hand, they only approach after they have gone back to run your information and write the ticket. This post doesn't make any sense, and given the fact that the OP has less than 15 posts make me more suspicious.
On a side note, given any circumstances where a LEO "draws down on you" I can't see any justification to returning fire because you fear for your life. You don't know what information the LEO is going on. Maybe you match the description of an armed suspect. It's best to file a complaint after the fact.
As Slidelljim mentioned, it seems to be SOP for LSP to order you out of the car and to the rear. I've been stopped twice for speeding recently by LSP and both times ordered to step out by the trooper over his PA. I was told to turn in a circle and when the trooper saw my empty holster asked, "Where's YOUR GUN?" I replied that it was safely locked inside of the vehicle. As soon as I realize that I'm being pulled over I unholster and place the gun in my glove compartment which is then locked. Upon being told to exit the vehicle I exit and lock the doors behind me. Each time I was questioned and released with a warning. No problems.
actually come to think of it, yea leo's dont tell you to get out and move to the rear for speeding. were you driving a stolen vehicle? lol
I personally don't think it's a good idea to be handling your weapon while being pulled over.
Reality check, IF a LEO points a gun at you, that is not the time for you to demand that the LEO prove RAS....he may feel his safety is in jeopardy.:uhoh:
Two, the OP stipulates that he is in a vehicle, got out and then the LEO saw his weapon. Does seeing equate to OC? Is OCing a XD .40 in a DeSantis Viper holster with a light jacket/windbreaker on, unzipped equate to CCW? Everybody knows I am packing heat in this type of jacket so I don't even try to zip it closed. Am I OCing or CCWing?
C: It does not matter at this point in this thread whether or not the story is true or false. The premise is valid. The situation, while outlandish, is not improbable. We have taken the bait and it seems we are desperately trying to spit the hook out.
personally i woulda complied while asking him "On what grounds are you pointing your weapon at me and ordering me to the ground?... (continued below)...