AWDstylez
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deepdiver wrote:
While I don't disagree withyour origins for all this, you cannot deny the fact that deregulationis largely toblame forletting the sub-prime fiasco get out of hand.
I completely agree with "we're screwed '08," but since when is that anything new? The only thing that changes every election is the year. :lol:
deepdiver wrote:
AWDstylez wrote:Clinton wasn't a legislator and congress is where the problem began albeit with Clinton's encouragement, and my earlier comment was not a jab but rather just a fact. But the story doesn't end there. Despite Greenspan telling all of congress publicly by 2001 that this would happen, the republican controlled congress over six years did nothing to fix it. N.o.t.h.i.n.g. A few individual congressmen tried to do something, most but not all were republicans including McCain, several fought hard to block something, anything, that might have averted this, in particular Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and Harry Reid. Unfortunately both sides of the aisle continued to play politics while a crescendo of disaster built.deepdiver wrote:AWDstylez wrote:Actually, the lesson learned from this is that using US financial markets for social engineering using the wealth of government (wealth confiscated from the people) to support government encouraged and sometimes mandated bad/overly risky lending practices and security instruments is a recipe for disaster.I could have sworn that the lesson learned from this is the exact opposite.Lack of regulationis the main cause of the crisis.
Care to elaborate? Was that a jab at Clinton's push for increased home ownership or something more?
There is plenty of blame to go around. Yes, the social engineering/socialist agendas of the left/dems started this ball rolling and created the underlying conditions where it could grow and lead to this. But, the right/republicans were too busy having an orgy of spending and power plays to bother to fix it several years ago when it could have been slowly and effectively fixed without tumbling world markets.
So the culprit was social engineering/socialistic government policy. That was willingly aided and abetted by willfully ignoring it by what I guess would be neo-cons, or what the right would call RINOs who took control of the party after W's election and strongly party-line supported and encouraged by the left/democrats.
Deregulation had nothing to do with this and anyone who says it does either doesn't understand what happened or is intentionally throwing out a red herring to evade responsibility or reality or to try to play a partisan blame game.
Both dominant parties are culpable which is why I think "We're Screwed '08" is the most appropriate campaign slogan this year as it the only slogan that covers both candidates.
While I don't disagree withyour origins for all this, you cannot deny the fact that deregulationis largely toblame forletting the sub-prime fiasco get out of hand.
I completely agree with "we're screwed '08," but since when is that anything new? The only thing that changes every election is the year. :lol: