Shotgun
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Brass Magnet wrote:
If you carry a knife called something like "the special forces throat-slashing sentry silent eliminator" it is prudent to not carry it concealed in places you cannot legally carry a concealed weapon. It's obviously designed as a weapon. But if the knife is the "farm boy stick whittler" keep it deep in your pocket if you want.
When you're getting old like me, the best non-weapon you can carry is a good sturdy cane. You can even take it anywhere...
Brass Magnet wrote:
Not that vague to me, and the wording of the law is pretty much the way I stated my understanding of it. The first part basically says an object is a weapon if it is designed to be a weapon, and the second part says an object is a weapon if it is used as a weapon, which covers things that are ostensibly non-weapons but actually employed as a weapon. So a steak knife, which is not designed to be a weapon, remains a non-weapon as long it is used to cut steak, or whittle wood, or shave your beard-- but it becomes a weapon under the law if you use it to slash a person, or rob somebody while threatening them with it. Some knives are designed to be weapons, some are not. Any non-weapon knife can be used as a weapon, and the moment you do so, it legally becomes a weapon. But unless actually employed as a weapon the majority of knives are manufactured as non-weapons. They're tools. Cars are sometimes defined as weapons-- when someone intentionally tries to run another person over-- but they are non-weapons outside of such use.Shotgun wrote:Really? I don't know. It's pretty vauge.Lammie wrote:Not really. Not all knives are designed as weapons. Technically to be a "concealed weapon" something has to either be designed as a weapon, or employed as a weapon. A steak knife is not designed as a weapon, but could certainly be used as a weapon-- but that's also true of a ballpoint pen, a baseball bat, a screwdriver, and countless other objects.Technically a knife (any knife) concealed in a pocket meets the definition. There also is no mention in the knife laws of "minimum" blade length. If a "pocket knife" is capable of conflictingsignificant bodily harm or death it is by definition a "dangerous weapon".
Landose was not charged with concealing, but with having a switchblade-- obviously by an ignorant police officer. Perhaps the DA's office will be smarter.
Looks like it fits any knife to me.:uhoh: I suppose that you could argue that a pocket knife isn't intended to be used to produce death or great bodily harm. However; if you were to say to the officer that you were carrying anything at all for "protection" then your item, be it a knife, or a wooden spoon would probably fit the definition.939.22
(10) “Dangerous weapon” means any firearm, whether
loaded or unloaded; any device designed as a weapon and capable
of producing death or great bodily harm; any ligature or other
instrumentality used on the throat, neck, nose, or mouth of another
person to impede, partially or completely, breathing or circulation
of blood; any electric weapon, as defined in s. 941.295 (4); or any
other device or instrumentality which, in the manner it is used or
intended to be used, is calculated or likely to produce death or
great bodily harm.
If you carry a knife called something like "the special forces throat-slashing sentry silent eliminator" it is prudent to not carry it concealed in places you cannot legally carry a concealed weapon. It's obviously designed as a weapon. But if the knife is the "farm boy stick whittler" keep it deep in your pocket if you want.
When you're getting old like me, the best non-weapon you can carry is a good sturdy cane. You can even take it anywhere...