Dunno. At a loss as to how much further I can dumb it down for you,really.
There's only so much that can be said on the topic on a public forum, which likely explains the silence of at least another dozen folks on here who know precisely what Im speaking of.
It's just one of those things,chief. Not every thing is "linked" or in a form one can "cite" for the ignorant. They either know it,understand it and get it-or they dont.
On a positive note, unless you become active in certain Islamic activities, you'll likely never have to find out the hard way.And that truly is about the most gentle way I can put it for you.
You can't admit you are citing fantasy that you can't substantiate?
You are aware I am prior military yes?
You are aware I have served in limited exposure with SF forces yes?
Sorry bud, your argument is really weak.
You are trying to point at an elite espionage/spy unit of a highly active conflict as some sort of evidence of CC superiority or minimalistic presentation time. The argument fails because of the sole dedication to training that these operatives have, as well as the premise of their "lightning quick CC presentation", which you can't substantiate.
You merely speculate that in their operations, they lightning-whip their pistols out, rack the slide, and engage enemy targets.
What you utterly fail to understand, is that in all likelihood, none of them are doing so under the "Im a ninja" basis that CC'ers dream about, where they have a armed, focused criminal bearing down on them for their valuables or belongings, and one unwarranted or unrequested movement could end up with a round in your brain, yet they are going to duress fumble for their firearm like it's some sort of counter ambush.
The Shin Bet likely have time to retrieve anyways, and so long as you can provide no proof, your commentary is as epically telling as taking a piss in the pacific is to the oceans Ph levels.
I would wager, not a single Shin Bet could outdraw who is probably the epitome of open holster draw, Bob Munden. Then again, you will make allusions as to how "We will never know", all while claiming the Shin Bet are a living example of efficient CC presentation.
You see j4l, every part of the draw, from the initial approach to the firearm, the draw from the holster, and end presentation, can be scientifically measured as it is a process of motion. Introducing extra steps or barriers to the process, invariably increases the amount of time taken. It is simple, scientific fact.
This is such a dumb conversation on your part, because you are trying like hell to use an example of an operational spy unit, who may or may not have to quickly present from CC (You can't verify this either way), as some form of example of how quickly one can draw from said position. Then, if I say something contradictory, you will tell me how I am lucky because I choose not to indulge myself in "Islamic affairs", necessitating their response.
It's childish to be perfectly straight with you.
You should probably try using actual examples that can be measured and gauged by everybody.
Naturally however, were you to do that, you would come to the same conclusion everybody else with half a brain has. CC, while your choice and I respect that, is always going to be slower than OC.