SCCC April 20-24th empty holster

[CRF250rider1000]

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Jonesy wrote:

CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Jonesy wrote:

This is a state school, right? They cannot prohibit non-students from excercising our rights. Have there been any instances of non-students carrying on campus?

I'm thinking a JMU meet sometime this fall:celebrate On the quad would be right in the center of things. We could hand out OC and CC flyers all while OCing and they can't tell us to leave

Hahahaha, they are scared of empty holsters, how will they react if we show up armed and legally oc'ing? Dr. Wright said they had a right to feel safe...He is an associate professor you know.

Well maybe we should personally hand him a flyer on OC and CC

 

[Jonesy]

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CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Jonesy wrote:

This is a state school, right? They cannot prohibit non-students from excercising our rights. Have there been any instances of non-students carrying on campus?

I'm thinking a JMU meet sometime this fall:celebrate On the quad would be right in the center of things. We could hand out OC and CC flyers all while OCing and they can't tell us to leave

I wonder if the campus police would over react, try to disarm and arrest?

 

[CRF250rider1000]

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Jonesy wrote:

CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Jonesy wrote:

This is a state school, right? They cannot prohibit non-students from excercising our rights. Have there been any instances of non-students carrying on campus?

I'm thinking a JMU meet sometime this fall:celebrate On the quad would be right in the center of things. We could hand out OC and CC flyers all while OCing and they can't tell us to leave

I wonder if the campus police would over react, try to disarm and arrest?

On public property? So how much money do you want from the state/city? Mostly all of us have recorders and I'm sure there will be video. If the police tried anything they would be in for a BIG lawsuit.

 

[nova]

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CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Jonesy wrote:

CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Jonesy wrote:

This is a state school, right? They cannot prohibit non-students from excercising our rights. Have there been any instances of non-students carrying on campus?

I'm thinking a JMU meet sometime this fall:celebrate On the quad would be right in the center of things. We could hand out OC and CC flyers all while OCing and they can't tell us to leave

I wonder if the campus police would over react, try to disarm and arrest?

On public property? So how much money do you want from the state/city? Mostly all of us have recorders and I'm sure there will be video. If the police tried anything they would be in for a BIG lawsuit.

There was an attorney general opinion a while ago that basically said that anyone not affiliated with the public university can still be told to leave if inside campus buildings or at public events/gatherings. I don't have the time to look it up, but figured I'd post here to remind everyone. You can bet campus police will overreact, as they aren't accustomed to seeing people with OMG GUNS!!!! on campus.

 

[CRF250rider1000]

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There was an attorney general opinion a while ago that basically said that anyone not affiliated with the public university can still be told to leave if inside campus buildings or at public events/gatherings.

How is that possible? They are PUBLIC buildings and property. Citizens can peacefully assemble on public property. What is wrong with that?

 

[nova]

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CRF250rider1000 wrote:

There was an attorney general opinion a while ago that basically said that anyone not affiliated with the public university can still be told to leave if inside campus buildings or at public events/gatherings.

How is that possible? They are PUBLIC buildings and property. Citizens can peacefully assemble on public property. What is wrong with that?

I'm not disagreeing with you, I have the same believe, public property means public property. However for some reason, PUBLIC universities think they can ignore the constitution for both students/faculty/staff AND the general public.

They can't charge you with shit, they'd probably try a tresspassing charge if you refuse to leave though. I know, complete BS but it is what it is until someone challenges it. I'm hoping the suit against GMU doesn't get stalled too long, that could get us some ground back.

 

[Jonesy]

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They can prohibit you from entering dorms or classrooms, or univ athletic events, according to AG. See opinion here. http://www.vaag.com/OPINIONS/2006opns/05-078.pdf

GMU has been sued by a non-student citizen carrying into library. See http://www.virginia1774.org/GMULawsuit.html

 

[nova]

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Jonesy wrote:

They can prohibit you from entering dorms or classrooms, or univ athletic events, according to AG. See opinion here. http://www.vaag.com/OPINIONS/2006opns/05-078.pdf

GMU has been sued by a non-student citizen carrying into library. See http://www.virginia1774.org/GMULawsuit.html

Thank you for doing what I was too lazy to. :lol:

 

[CRF250rider1000]

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Ok so going on the quad would not be against any laws then.:lol:

 

[nova]

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CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Ok so going on the quad would not be against any laws then.:lol:

Danbus wasn't breaking any laws either. Just expect to be harassed at the least.

 

[CRF250rider1000]

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nova wrote:

CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Ok so going on the quad would not be against any laws then.:lol:

Danbus wasn't breaking any laws either. Just expect to be harassed at the least.

Yea that is the only problem. I figure if we have enough OCers and video going we will be fine. Maybe we could contact a news crew to be there for the day? Have the cops try to pull something then?

 

[hunter45]

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CRF250rider1000 wrote:

nova wrote:

CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Ok so going on the quad would not be against any laws then.:lol:

Danbus wasn't breaking any laws either. Just expect to be harassed at the least.

Yea that is the only problem. I figure if we have enough OCers and video going we will be fine. Maybe we could contact a news crew to be there for the day? Have the cops try to pull something then?

Yes, you guys should do this! Not sure if I would be able to participate since I'm a student, but I could at least wear my empty holster. I'm sure TV3 (the Valley's news station) would cover it. They came out to JMU today to cover the empty holster protest.

 

[nova]

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I might have to show up if a date is announced. You know how JMU has a lot of nice girls and everything...:dude:




Oh and I'd come to the gun thing too.

 

[hunter45]

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Here's the story about the empty holster protest. Not much, but at least it made the news: http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/43579537.html

 

[nova]

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hunter45 wrote:

Here's the story about the empty holster protest. Not much, but at least it made the news: http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/43579537.html

Thanks for the link! GMU SCCC kinda fell apart after TEX1N left, he was the pushing force in the movement at GMU. But now that they stuck that section in the VAC, I do not believe there is anything we can do outside of the courts or legislature, asking them nicely and stating facts will not get the administration to budge.

 

[Neplusultra]

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CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Forgot I go to ODU again? I don't think there should be an issue with me carrying there. I am not an enrolled student at JMU so they can't do jack!

OK smart ass :^). Pick on an old man. We'll see how well you do when you can't remember things like you did :^). I think it's more I forget you were visiting friends, or at least that's why I think you were here when we went shooting in the blowing rain....

I'd still check "ODUs" rules then. They might just have some rule like that ......

 

[nova]

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Neplusultra wrote:

CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Forgot I go to ODU again? I don't think there should be an issue with me carrying there. I am not an enrolled student at JMU so they can't do jack!

OK smart ass :^). Pick on an old man. We'll see how well you do when you can't remember things like you did :^). I think it's more I forget you were visiting friends, or at least that's why I think you were here when we went shooting in the blowing rain....

I'd still check "ODUs" rules then. They might just have some rule like that ......

:lol::lol: that was a fun weekend.

 

[Neplusultra]

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nova wrote:

Neplusultra wrote:

CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Forgot I go to ODU again? I don't think there should be an issue with me carrying there. I am not an enrolled student at JMU so they can't do jack!

OK smart ass :^). Pick on an old man. We'll see how well you do when you can't remember things like you did :^). I think it's more I forget you were visiting friends, or at least that's why I think you were here when we went shooting in the blowing rain....

I'd still check "ODUs" rules then. They might just have some rule like that ......

:lol::lol: that was a fun weekend.

Yeah, if we do it again you'll have to come to lunch with everyone. We'll get an extra big table for ya... :^).

 

[nova]

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Neplusultra wrote:

nova wrote:

Neplusultra wrote:

CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Forgot I go to ODU again? I don't think there should be an issue with me carrying there. I am not an enrolled student at JMU so they can't do jack!

OK smart ass :^). Pick on an old man. We'll see how well you do when you can't remember things like you did :^). I think it's more I forget you were visiting friends, or at least that's why I think you were here when we went shooting in the blowing rain....

I'd still check "ODUs" rules then. They might just have some rule like that ......

:lol::lol: that was a fun weekend.

Yeah, if we do it again you'll have to come to lunch with everyone. We'll get an extra big table for ya... :^).

HEY!!!!

haha I'd love to join everyone again and make it to lunch next time!

 

[CRF250rider1000]

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nova wrote:

Neplusultra wrote:

nova wrote:

Neplusultra wrote:

CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Forgot I go to ODU again? I don't think there should be an issue with me carrying there. I am not an enrolled student at JMU so they can't do jack!

OK smart ass :^). Pick on an old man. We'll see how well you do when you can't remember things like you did :^). I think it's more I forget you were visiting friends, or at least that's why I think you were here when we went shooting in the blowing rain....

I'd still check "ODUs" rules then. They might just have some rule like that ......

:lol::lol: that was a fun weekend.

Yeah, if we do it again you'll have to come to lunch with everyone. We'll get an extra big table for ya... :^).

HEY!!!!

haha I'd love to join everyone again and make it to lunch next time!

mmmm Macadoos!:celebrate