Shadow Bear
Michigan Moderator
Yeah, I know, its redundant; like 'criminal attorney'...
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Supressors OKed by AG
- Thread starter stainless1911
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Yeah, I know, its redundant; like 'criminal attorney'...
NHCGRPR45
Regular Member
Yea, but I am not sure if he really meant "prostitute" some of them really "hire" out to the largest contributors to campaign.
Redundancy can be a good thing, extra magazines, extra ammo, extra guns and what not!
Evil Creamsicle
Regular Member
This is what I was referring to... lol
stainless1911
Banned
I know.
NHCGRPR45
Regular Member
Message body
Mr. McElroy,
Yes; however, the person may not obtain the silencer until the person's ATF Form 4 (5320.4) has been approved with the tax stamp affixed and returned to the person.
Sincerely,
Sergeant Aimee Maike
Michigan State Police
Office of the Director
Legal Resource and Education Unit
333 South Grand Avenue
P.O. Box 30634
Lansing, Michigan 48909
Desk: (517) 241-1906
Fax: (517) 241-0991
So a private person who obtains a silencer and has a valid form 4 may posses a silencer?
sincerely,
Shaun Lewis - Day McElroy
From: Aimee Maike <MaikeA@michigan.gov>
To:
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:32 AM
Subject: Mufflers, Silencers, and AG Opinion
Mr. McElroy,
The law in the state of Michigan in regards to mufflers or silencers, as detailed in MCL 750.224, has not changed. As long as the person is licensed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, to manufacture, sell, or possess a muffler or silencer, the person may manufacture, sell or possess a muffler or silencer in Michigan.
The following is a link to MCL 750.224 for your review:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(qxqggw45frqewl45tu5chai2))/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-750-224.pdf
Sincerely,
Sergeant Aimee Maike
Michigan State Police
Office of the Director
Legal Resource and Education Unit
333 South Grand Avenue
P.O. Box 30634
Lansing, Michigan 48909
Desk: (517) 241-1906
Fax: (517) 241-0991
>>> MSP_Webmaster 9/12/2011 11:27 AM >>>
f01Name: SHaun McElroy
f02Address: f03City: f04State: MI
f05Zipcode: f06phonenumber: f07emailaddress: f08Question: Due to the new AG opinion on firearm supressors/silencers what is the MSP stance and are they now legal for private ownership?
Mr. McElroy,
Yes; however, the person may not obtain the silencer until the person's ATF Form 4 (5320.4) has been approved with the tax stamp affixed and returned to the person.
Sincerely,
Sergeant Aimee Maike
Michigan State Police
Office of the Director
Legal Resource and Education Unit
333 South Grand Avenue
P.O. Box 30634
Lansing, Michigan 48909
Desk: (517) 241-1906
Fax: (517) 241-0991
So a private person who obtains a silencer and has a valid form 4 may posses a silencer?
sincerely,
Shaun Lewis - Day McElroy
From: Aimee Maike <MaikeA@michigan.gov>
To:
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:32 AM
Subject: Mufflers, Silencers, and AG Opinion
Mr. McElroy,
The law in the state of Michigan in regards to mufflers or silencers, as detailed in MCL 750.224, has not changed. As long as the person is licensed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, to manufacture, sell, or possess a muffler or silencer, the person may manufacture, sell or possess a muffler or silencer in Michigan.
The following is a link to MCL 750.224 for your review:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(qxqggw45frqewl45tu5chai2))/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-750-224.pdf
Sincerely,
Sergeant Aimee Maike
Michigan State Police
Office of the Director
Legal Resource and Education Unit
333 South Grand Avenue
P.O. Box 30634
Lansing, Michigan 48909
Desk: (517) 241-1906
Fax: (517) 241-0991
>>> MSP_Webmaster 9/12/2011 11:27 AM >>>
f01Name: SHaun McElroy
f02Address: f03City: f04State: MI
f05Zipcode: f06phonenumber: f07emailaddress: f08Question: Due to the new AG opinion on firearm supressors/silencers what is the MSP stance and are they now legal for private ownership?
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22-250
Regular Member
How are you supposed to fill out the form with S# and make and such if you need the stamp to buy it first. Or what am I missing..
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NHCGRPR45
Regular Member
Heres the process.
1. Buy the supressor and have it shipped to a C3 dealer that will accept the transfer. Or buy one he has in the store, you'll need a S/N to start the paperwork. You must buy it first, but you don't get to take it home....YET!
2. Either the dealer will give you the correct paperwork or you can get it directly from the ATF's website.
3. Fill out the application for the transfer.
4. Get the CLEO sign off or have a trust. Not 100% yet on how a trust works yet. But at Least a CLEO sign off.
5. Get a Money order for 200 USD
6. Get 2 passport quality photos
7. Take 2 through 6 back to the dealer so he can verify everything is correct.
8. Send send 2 through 7 to the ATF. If you do it yourself at least let the dealer look over everything, any little thing can hang up an otherwise "approved" transfer.
Now its a waiting game you get approved when you get your tax stamp with photo and form 4 back from the ATF. And it really is a stamp, and mine was affixed with clear tape you would use for wrapping B-day gifts, so was the passport photo. No I am not kidding.
Take your form 4 back to the store and take home your supressor. The dealers I worked with in TX and LA both had the same policy, if you were denied they returned all monies except 10% that way you could feel a little better about risking so much money. But a good rule of thumb is if you can buy a handgun you an "probably" buy a suppressor.
IANAL
If I missed anything its due to my memory it has been a few years.
1. Buy the supressor and have it shipped to a C3 dealer that will accept the transfer. Or buy one he has in the store, you'll need a S/N to start the paperwork. You must buy it first, but you don't get to take it home....YET!
2. Either the dealer will give you the correct paperwork or you can get it directly from the ATF's website.
3. Fill out the application for the transfer.
4. Get the CLEO sign off or have a trust. Not 100% yet on how a trust works yet. But at Least a CLEO sign off.
5. Get a Money order for 200 USD
6. Get 2 passport quality photos
7. Take 2 through 6 back to the dealer so he can verify everything is correct.
8. Send send 2 through 7 to the ATF. If you do it yourself at least let the dealer look over everything, any little thing can hang up an otherwise "approved" transfer.
Now its a waiting game you get approved when you get your tax stamp with photo and form 4 back from the ATF. And it really is a stamp, and mine was affixed with clear tape you would use for wrapping B-day gifts, so was the passport photo. No I am not kidding.
Take your form 4 back to the store and take home your supressor. The dealers I worked with in TX and LA both had the same policy, if you were denied they returned all monies except 10% that way you could feel a little better about risking so much money. But a good rule of thumb is if you can buy a handgun you an "probably" buy a suppressor.
IANAL
If I missed anything its due to my memory it has been a few years.
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Evil Creamsicle
Regular Member
Heres the process.
1. Buy the supressor and have it shipped to a C3 dealer that will accept the transfer. Or buy one he has in the store, you'll need a S/N to start the paperwork. You must buy it first, but you don't get to take it home....YET!
2. Either the dealer will give you the correct paperwork or you can get it directly from the ATF's website.
3. Fill out the application for the transfer.
4. Get the CLEO sign off or have a trust. Not 100% yet on how a trust works yet. But at Least a CLEO sign off.
5. Get a Money order for 200 USD
6. Get 2 passport quality photos
7. Take 2 through 6 back to the dealer so he can verify everything is correct.
8. Send send 2 through 7 to the ATF. If you do it yourself at least let the dealer look over everything, any little thing can hang up an otherwise "approved" transfer.
Now its a waiting game you get approved when you get your tax stamp with photo and form 4 back from the ATF. And it really is a stamp, and mine was affixed with clear tape you would use for wrapping B-day gifts, so was the passport photo. No I am not kidding.
Take your form 4 back to the store and take home your supressor. The dealers I worked with in TX and LA both had the same policy, if you were denied they returned all monies except 10% that way you could feel a little better about risking so much money. But a good rule of thumb is if you can buy a handgun you an "probably" buy a suppressor.
IANAL
If I missed anything its due to my memory it has been a few years.
Thank you sir!