Tony4310
Regular Member
Open carried to benchrest today lol..........
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Where Did You Carry Today And How Did It Go
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Chap
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Oxford, MS - Huddle House with other forum members. (MS get together)
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Morpheus97
Regular Member
Good and bad experiences today.
I met Tony at Starbucks in Hazelwood this morning and had no issues. I have never been in a Starbucks before, but it was a very pleasant experience.
I also OC'd at Bench Rest with no issues. As if that is a surprise
Things went bad when I stopped at Cabela's on my way home. I have OC'd there many times and never had an issue until today. I stopped by the store to look at and purchase an EOTech holo sight ($$$$). They did not have the exact model I wanted, but they did have a similar model. I don't want to list names here, but the person "helping me" at the gun counter has a 3 letter name so I'll refer to him as 3letter. I say "helping me" because he didn't know anything about the sights and didn't seem that interested in helping me (which is a separate issue). I also want to mention that I have seen 3letter there on many occasions, so he is certainly not a new employee. After looking at the similar model EOTech for a few minutes, 3letter tells me I need to cover my firearm. I replied, "Excuse me?". He repeated himself that I need to cover my firearm or go to the front door to have it zip-tied. I tell 3letter that is it Cabela's corporate policy to follow local and state laws in regards to OC. He insists that it is Cabela's corporate policy that all fireams must be covered or zip-tied. I set the EOTech on the counter and told 3letter I will take my business elsewhere. I walked directly to customer service and asked for the store manager. The friendly lady in customer service called for the store manager, but he had already left for the day. She asked why I needed to speak with the store manager so that she could find a proper person for me to speak with. I explained to her that I was legally OCing in the store and was going to purchase a very expensive EOTech sight but that 3letter in the gun department told me to cover my firearm or have it zip-tied. When I explained to him that it was Cabela's corporate policy to follow local and state law, he insisted it was Cabela's corporate policy that all firearms must be covered or zip-tied. I told her that had just cost Cabela's a large sale and I wanted to speak with a manager. She quickly called another manager to come speak with me. The manager that came to speak with me asked how he could help me. I explained to him what happened and he told me it is Cabela's corporate policy that OC is not prohibited where legal. He said that it is prohibited in the rest of the mall and also in the parking lot since that is mall property, not Cabela's property. He went on to say that if I did OC in the rest of the mall I would be lucky if they only escorted me out of the building. I responded by telling him that the most they could do is ask me to leave, and then file trespassing charges if I refuse to leave. And if they do anything else they are open to a lawsuit. That brought the conversation back to Cabela's company policy and the current incident. He explained to me how they don't want people removing their firearms from its holster to try out new holsters. I assured him that my firearm would only be unholstered in their store if it was needed because my life was in danger. Then he told me that very few people OC anymore, to which I reponded that a lot of people are OCing in the area. He said that they have seen maybe 10 people OCing in the store. I'm not sure if I misunderstood the manager, but I thought he said that 3letter was only saying what he was instructed to say. I suspect that is what the manager said because I remember 3letter saying that they were told OC is prohibited. That doesn't make sense given that Cabela's corporate policy is not to prohibit OC where legal, as stated by this manager. The manager did say that he was going to have a talk with 3letter. I made it very clear again to the manager that this incident cost them a large sale. He apologized for the inconvenience and wished me a nice day. I immediately left the store. BTW, I am intentionally leaving out 3letter's real name because I suspect he really was told that OC is prohibited and was only following his management's instructions. Now I am going to follow-up with communications to Cabela's corporate office.
I met Tony at Starbucks in Hazelwood this morning and had no issues. I have never been in a Starbucks before, but it was a very pleasant experience.
I also OC'd at Bench Rest with no issues. As if that is a surprise
Things went bad when I stopped at Cabela's on my way home. I have OC'd there many times and never had an issue until today. I stopped by the store to look at and purchase an EOTech holo sight ($$$$). They did not have the exact model I wanted, but they did have a similar model. I don't want to list names here, but the person "helping me" at the gun counter has a 3 letter name so I'll refer to him as 3letter. I say "helping me" because he didn't know anything about the sights and didn't seem that interested in helping me (which is a separate issue). I also want to mention that I have seen 3letter there on many occasions, so he is certainly not a new employee. After looking at the similar model EOTech for a few minutes, 3letter tells me I need to cover my firearm. I replied, "Excuse me?". He repeated himself that I need to cover my firearm or go to the front door to have it zip-tied. I tell 3letter that is it Cabela's corporate policy to follow local and state laws in regards to OC. He insists that it is Cabela's corporate policy that all fireams must be covered or zip-tied. I set the EOTech on the counter and told 3letter I will take my business elsewhere. I walked directly to customer service and asked for the store manager. The friendly lady in customer service called for the store manager, but he had already left for the day. She asked why I needed to speak with the store manager so that she could find a proper person for me to speak with. I explained to her that I was legally OCing in the store and was going to purchase a very expensive EOTech sight but that 3letter in the gun department told me to cover my firearm or have it zip-tied. When I explained to him that it was Cabela's corporate policy to follow local and state law, he insisted it was Cabela's corporate policy that all firearms must be covered or zip-tied. I told her that had just cost Cabela's a large sale and I wanted to speak with a manager. She quickly called another manager to come speak with me. The manager that came to speak with me asked how he could help me. I explained to him what happened and he told me it is Cabela's corporate policy that OC is not prohibited where legal. He said that it is prohibited in the rest of the mall and also in the parking lot since that is mall property, not Cabela's property. He went on to say that if I did OC in the rest of the mall I would be lucky if they only escorted me out of the building. I responded by telling him that the most they could do is ask me to leave, and then file trespassing charges if I refuse to leave. And if they do anything else they are open to a lawsuit. That brought the conversation back to Cabela's company policy and the current incident. He explained to me how they don't want people removing their firearms from its holster to try out new holsters. I assured him that my firearm would only be unholstered in their store if it was needed because my life was in danger. Then he told me that very few people OC anymore, to which I reponded that a lot of people are OCing in the area. He said that they have seen maybe 10 people OCing in the store. I'm not sure if I misunderstood the manager, but I thought he said that 3letter was only saying what he was instructed to say. I suspect that is what the manager said because I remember 3letter saying that they were told OC is prohibited. That doesn't make sense given that Cabela's corporate policy is not to prohibit OC where legal, as stated by this manager. The manager did say that he was going to have a talk with 3letter. I made it very clear again to the manager that this incident cost them a large sale. He apologized for the inconvenience and wished me a nice day. I immediately left the store. BTW, I am intentionally leaving out 3letter's real name because I suspect he really was told that OC is prohibited and was only following his management's instructions. Now I am going to follow-up with communications to Cabela's corporate office.
xdmcompact
Regular Member
Was just in Cabelas today and open carried with no one saying a word.
I have before also with no issues and I have had no issues at Bass Pro myself.
Seems to me there is a real issue at both with communications as both have the policies of following the laws where applicable and both have employees who step outside the boundaries on a regular basis.
Tony4310
Regular Member
I've open carried their a few times and never had an issue myself either.
Morpheus97
Regular Member
Of the 10 people that OC in Cabela's (according to the manager), two of us were there today.
xdmcompact
Regular Member
My first Man With A Gun call tonight, was told that an off duty officer called in and said there was a guy walking with a gun. I was stopped and the officer ask me if I was open carrying and I replied yes, he said way to go. He asked me for my CCW permit and then, he said he is all for open carry and he himself before becoming a cop was harassed for open carry. I am now determined to find a cell phone case to hang my phone around my neck, was unable to record this incident my phone was in the pocket on my firearm side. He was awesome we stood and talked about his OC experience and general stuff for about fifteen minutes. Bella Villa does not provide weapons for their department, so we talked about his choice for his personal duty weapon. He carries a Sig SP2022 .40 on duty and an S&W Airweight revolver .38 off duty, but he is a Glock guy. He said he has worked for a few other Muni's and carried Glocks on duty for them. I may ask if i can post his name to give him credit for the awesome job he is doing, we will see. I will say for everyone's benefit that there should be no problems in Bella Villa with OC. I have educated one officer and the other officer is completely up on his ordinances and OC.
xdmcompact
Regular Member
That's my next shirt, hopefully after the 9/11 event I can get one.
Morpheus97
Regular Member
I am interested in one as well. LMTD has one, but so far I have neglected to ask him where he purchased it. LMTD, do you mind sharing where you purchased it? My plan has been to pull my phone out of my pocket and start recording when confronted by someone, but after my experience on Saturday I now realize that is not practical.
xdmcompact
Regular Member
I talked to him last night about it he made it himself, I am looking into making one out of kydex.
Tony4310
Regular Member
I do not have a cell phone so I can't record stuff.
xdmcompact
Regular Member
I know Big Lots carries audio and video recorders from time to time. Usually under $20 bucks, sometimes they actually have some decent ones for around $40 to $50 bucks.
Ha!
Now the cat is out of the bag! I can SEW too!
I was not aware it would indeed be popular.
I might break out the machine and pop a couple out, I still have plenty of the brass grommets that i will not be using for anything else that I know of soon.
My phone is one of the sprint htc 4g ones, if that is what yours is, I can do it, if it is something else I would need to measure your phone because it is a totally custom thing, I did not measure it, I simply wrapped my phone in it and held my thumb where it needed to be sewn and ran it through the machine.
let me know, they will be priced under 800 bucks
Now the cat is out of the bag! I can SEW too!
I was not aware it would indeed be popular.
I might break out the machine and pop a couple out, I still have plenty of the brass grommets that i will not be using for anything else that I know of soon.
My phone is one of the sprint htc 4g ones, if that is what yours is, I can do it, if it is something else I would need to measure your phone because it is a totally custom thing, I did not measure it, I simply wrapped my phone in it and held my thumb where it needed to be sewn and ran it through the machine.
let me know, they will be priced under 800 bucks
xdmcompact
Regular Member
they will be priced under 800 bucks
Ha and I thought anything Tacticool was over a thousand.:lol::banana:
xdmcompact
Regular Member
Thursday night I expanded my walk into Unincorp. Stl. County, about a ten mile walk. I kept saying to myself that I have not seen one officer sitting or driving by throughout my walk. I make it all the way back almost into Bella Villa and needed to use the restroom, I stop at QT and low and behold there are six cop cars in the lot. I go in use the restroom and as I am leaving the officers are making quite a ruckus, seven or eight St. Louis County officers are standing in QT bullshitting. Now I am out just for a walk but during my walk I did more to protect Unincorp. Stl. County by open carrying then these officers that were just standing around doing nothing.
Today got a three mile walk in at the Belleville IL. gun show, unfortunately unarmed. It is funny that if someone was to do something, even with a thousand guns in the place no one could have done anything about it. You also have to show either an IL. F.O.I.D. card or Missouri ID just to touch ammo or a firearm.
Today got a three mile walk in at the Belleville IL. gun show, unfortunately unarmed. It is funny that if someone was to do something, even with a thousand guns in the place no one could have done anything about it. You also have to show either an IL. F.O.I.D. card or Missouri ID just to touch ammo or a firearm.
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Jim40Cal
Regular Member
About an hour ago (8:00 p.m.) there was a ruckus in front of my sons girlfriends house about two blocks from mine. My wife went up there and after awhile I decided to go see for myself what was going on as two police cars were there. I arrived Open Carrying and we all stood out by the street for about a half an hour talking to the police. My wife said one cop kept staring at my weapon but nothiing was ever said as it should be. We left there and went to O'Reilly's for some things and they have always been friendly.
SigGuy23
Activist Member
I'm a new OCer as well. Last night I OCed to REDBOX to return and rent some DVD's. Everything was normal and I had no issues. I then went to the Regal 14 movie theater in Marysville, WA. I saw the 9:45pm showing of Columiana. As I walked to the front entrance of the theater, there was two Police Officers standing there. One of them looked like he was going to approach me. He never did though. I went inside and payed for my ticket with no issues. I received a few strange looks from some teenagers in the other concessions line. Other then that, everything was perfect. No issues or comments and it was a good movie too.
xdmcompact
Regular Member
Thanks for the post are you in Missouri? Your location shows Washington? There should be a section for your state to post your experiences in or maybe a moderator could move this to the appropriate states section. Again thanks for the post always good to hear positive stories of OC.