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Thank you all for your feedback. I have answered all post directed at me that had some valid point for discussion. Some people seemed to be confused by my overall statements. I will clear that up now. In some states, such as Socialist State of California, there is a concealed carry laws however it is basically impossible for your average citizen to obtain one making it impossible to carry a firearm. In those cases, HELL YES, Open carry your firearm to stand up for your rights. However, in places such as Missouri, in the forum we are currently discussing, as long as you can legally own a firearm, you are able to get a concealed carry permit.
-Verd-
Excellent points. I dont know a ton of individuals that buy extra pants of different sizes in order to conceal, but I am not where you are from. Most simply have it on the exterior of their pants and wear some type of jacket and/or shirt to cover the firearm. That added layer of clothing adds to security of the holster.
-9026543-
A worthless post that I will not dignify with a response.
-Tony4310-
You are correct, an OC firearm is much more obvious to a police officer. However, you seem to have misunderstood the topic of my post. My questions were about the added safety of a concealed weapon compared to a weapon carried in the open. Although correct about most criminal carrying a firearm without a holster, in places such as wasteband, pocket etc, you are correct, however there are some amazing holsters avaiable these days.
-opencarryeveryday-
Thank you for asking for clarification before just assuming as some people already have. The general idea of this post is to discuss weapon retention. The holster that you have is a very good concealed carry holster. My issue with it is a level 1 retention holster, IE being you push the button on the side and the firearm is free to pull from the holster. Most law enforcement agencies require a level 3 retention holster in which there is one thumb break, possibly another index finger break and a specific action, such are rocking the firearm backwards before it would allow the weapon to draw. Meaning, If dirtbag A walked up to me while I was on duty and was not familiar with the holster I was wearing, He would not be able to draw the firearm.
Whereas, Dirtbag A could easily figure out that all it takes is a push of a button to withdraw a firearm from a level 1 retention holster. You have a selected a great holster, but I feel it needs the added security of a level of concealment for weapon retention reasons.
-wrightme-
Because I understand that is your right to carry a firearm and that is completely off topic of what I am asking. No need to post something I already know.
-NavyLCDR-
Very valid points. However, I will argue your definition of deterrence with you. Deterrence is a crime that is not committed based upon the circumstances, such as a police officer walking a beat, an armed citizen defending their home, or etc. What you are describing is the crime being pushed from yourself to another less prepared victim. Granted, there will never be such a thing as 100 percent deterrence because dirtbag is going to always be a dirtbag. However, if your reasonings are for DETERRENCE as you have suggested by asking me to please read up on then you should also be concerned about the individual that is about to be murdered or raped. Because you are not pursuing this individual you find to be suspicous, I doubt your intention is true deterrence. To me it sounds more like intimitadition of self defense would be your reasoning for OC, which is YOUR right.
And if you believe people are NOT attacked for their firearms, I think you are sadly mistaken.
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