KBCraig
Regular Member
By what wild definition is an SKS an "assault rifle"?
Sorry, I see nothing like the original post anywhere on his facebook page. Does one need to be on his "friends" list to view his postings?
Sorry, I see nothing like the original post anywhere on his facebook page. Does one need to be on his "friends" list to view his postings?
By what wild definition is an SKS an "assault rifle"?
As far as documents of the incident....all calls to PD and all PD radio traffic is recorded. If you really want the details call the PD at 859-745-7403 and do an open records request for this incident.
That appears to be a link to the cop's facebook page. I was thinking a link to the letter.......
Thanks in advance.
Give us the case number and I would be happy to. Also seeing the officer is a public servant it would help the hearsay if we know exactly who we are talking about. BTW you have been here long enough to know that when you make a claim, it is up to YOU to back it up. It is insulting to the rest of members to expect them to do your due diligence for you.
So before I share a general post I have to provide a case number, the names of all parties involved, audio recording of all phone calls and radio traffic, recorded statements from all involved parties, etc?
I shared a post made by a local LEO for discussion. A post in his own words. His point of view. What more do I need to provide with this?
Your idea of "common sense" may be my idea of tyranny. That's the reason we have written laws and a written constitution. Government officials don't get to make it up on the fly to suit their whims and moods. I want my wife and my children to live in a free society, without undo harassment from the government. No matter what this guys past reputation, he still has rights and he was engaged in lawful activity. He must not be too bad a character if he can still legally own a gun. Just because this LEO doesn't like this citizen or his life style doesn't give him authority to bully him, insult him or to disrespect him. If the LEO wants to "assess the situation" from a short distance, that's fine. If he wants a consensual encounter, that alright. Anything further is none of his business. He certainly doesn't have any business giving unsolicited advice on conduct or spouting off about anyone's private personal history or reputation. That could rise to the level of slander and if he posts it on social media, could be libel. Nice "common sense" activities for a public servant. You say you're "pro citizen". I guess, that just doesn't extend to this "citizen", you pick and choose them. Apparently, this LEO does, too. Rights are for everybody, even if they break the law. Even rude, offensive, unlikeable, distastful people have them, not just your buddies and those you agree with. In fact, those people need protecting the most.
So before I share a general post I have to provide a case number, the names of all parties involved, audio recording of all phone calls and radio traffic, recorded statements from all involved parties, etc?
I shared a post made by a local LEO for discussion. A post in his own words. His point of view. What more do I need to provide with this?
No need for a pedigree to make a general post that you formulated. When referencing a controversial Facebook post from what could be deemed a loose predatory adversary, it's not asking too much to have some more evidence than hearsay. You know; Who, What, Where, When, Why and the source.
You know how it works around here. You posted hearsay, from a person making a claim on their facebook account. With absolutely nothing to back it up. There are policies within almost every department for divulging personal information, and that includes making accusations online. What he said could be true, or it may not be true. He had no business ignoring department policy, and stirring a hornets nest.
You should stop and think, who knows what he is saying about you, since you do open carry.
How do I give more evidence?? I shared a link to his page where the comment was made. Other than that how could I possibly obtain and provide the Who, What, Where, When and Why? I wasn't there at the OC event. It didn't make the front page of the paper. I copy and pasted his comment to OCDO to show his views in hopes that we would share our thoughts on his beliefs and the way he supposedly handled the encounter. It seems that you are more concerned about the details of the alleged encounter. Hell, maybe this incident never even took place. Maybe he made the whole damn thing up to show how he could have outsmarted a bunch of OC'ers. The intent of my post wasn't for us to play "mythbuster" on the details of what really happened and who really said and did what, but rather to offer the insight of a LEO in regards to OC. Don't miss the forest for the trees.
And we are sharing out thoughts, but it still is hearsay until something more is provided to back it up. So far I smell Bovine Scatology from someone.
I have provided all that I can provide. If I were able to provide more, I would. Let me ask you this, if I copy and pasted a negative OC comment from my local mechanic, would we be so critical to get hardcore, concrete evidence that the mechanic actually said/did what he claims?
I doubt it. More likely we would be seeing "don't do business with that anti, take your car elsewhere" or "lets see if he is so anti-OC when his shop gets robbed"...etc etc...
I understand that a LEO acting under the color of authority is way different than an anti mechanic, but damn, ease up on me. I have gave all that I can give. I promise that I am not withholding information.
I have provided all that I can provide. If I were able to provide more, I would. Let me ask you this, if I copy and pasted a negative OC comment from my local mechanic, would we be so critical to get hardcore, concrete evidence that the mechanic actually said/did what he claims?
I doubt it. More likely we would be seeing "don't do business with that anti, take your car elsewhere" or "lets see if he is so anti-OC when his shop gets robbed"...etc etc...
I understand that a LEO acting under the color of authority is way different than an anti mechanic, but damn, ease up on me. I have gave all that I can give. I promise that I am not withholding information.
If this came from Facebook, it must be true.
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I'm going to say that if the guy is a known criminal with multiple trips through the system then the cop had every right to approach him and assess the situation. Why wouldn't he? If your spouse or child worked at that court house and someone was outside with a AK who is a repeat offender wouldn't you want someone to see if he was there to do harm or good? I sure would.
Now I know I'm going to take some bashing for this post and that's OK. I'm a big boy I can handle it but come on people......use some common sense. He didn't ask questions at gun point. He didn't ask for ID. He didn't detain anyone. He didn't take the weapon, or even touch it.
I'm pro 2A, pro citizens rights but I'm also pro common sense..................