if CC is indeed allowed, is printing allowed? extra tight tshirt + 6" .357 = concealed :banana:
Part of the Preliminary Injunction today is that CADL can not search patrons, thus they can not search you if they suspect you are carrying a weapon. Mr Lance did at one point indicate he could not stop people from CCing because it was lawful and since he cant see the weapon he would not know its there. His words were not that precise but that is what it seemed to me he was saying, then he made a 180 stance stating he did not want any weapons in CADL CC or OC.
Nothing was said about printing from what I heard, but I would bet if your jacket fell open you would be asked to leave under the Preliminary Injunction for accidentally showing your weapon. If OC in the end is found to be illegal in CADL CC is next on the list, you can bet you bottom dollar on that one!
Mr Lance to me seemed to indicate that CPL holders were safer than non CPL holders (OC'ers) due to the safety training they went through to get their CPL and gave the impression to me he felt that since OCer's did not need to have a CPL to OC and he could not tell a CPL holder from a non-CPL holder that those who OC'ed were more incline to have a safety issue with their weapon or could/would get in to a altercation by a patron or worker of CADL
Since a couple of groups have backed out of events, the judge felt they were damaged/harm and more damage/harm would continue if the TRO now Preliminary Injunction was removed
but what was amazing to me was how much the other side read OCOD AND MIOPENCARRY.org and tried to use what WE posted to make points with the judge. including one comment that we should have a gathering across the street from the library in the park.
This is no longer just a 2nd Amendment issue, this is a Constitutional rights issue. She affirmed the rights to 1st Amendment (speech and assembly) and 4th Amendments (illegal search) but trampled on the 2nd Amendment because of perceived harm to CADL in the FUTURE, something no one can see or predict. It could be just as true that since we OC in there, some of the unstable patrons might pick a different place to call home, thus making CADL a bit safer all around.
Two hurdles I see of many to over come, 1. is CADL a school, the judge seems to believe so and 2. does CADL as an "Authority", have the right to make laws or rules especially when it comes to Constitutional Rights.
No matter how we look at it, it will be while before its decided and over with. So if anyone thought this was just about Open Carrying of handguns, be assured this is now about our basic rights an citizens of Michigan and of the United States. If this law suit succeeds even on the smallest issues "Authorities" might be popping up all over Michigan making rules, regulations and laws.
I do not believe the legislators of this state intended for a library administrator to make laws that could effect approximately 20 million Michigan Residents not the mention any of the other 290 million citizens of the rest of the United States that might visit this state.
If you have not jumped aboard this train, its time to by a ticket.
