22Luke36
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You could have simply answered the question. Now everyone knows that you claimed that the reason you deleted my post was because it allegedly advocated violence. Now I'm not going to let that happen. Everyone can think Im an A hole, but I have shown you to be a liar and a coward.
Ok, if I'm wrong, how so?
Every person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.
Any law, 227 for instance, that keeps a person from being armed with whatever they choose, wherever they choose, however they choose, whenever they choose, is...
unconstitutional.
22Luke36,
I think I'll just give you the stage you so desperately need and let John deal with it...have at it.
It isn't mental gymnastics. More like walking across a room.
Every person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state. MCL 750.227 CLEARLY and directly contradicts that right.
I really really hate people like you who turn the law into what it has become. The reason for that disdain is because it will someday lead to loss of life on a grand scale.
22Luke36,
I think I'll just give you the stage you so desperately need and let John deal with it...have at it.
Not surprising words coming from a fed.
You're right about the hate. I could forgive a person, for anything. I hate what people like you have done to my country.
Get over yourself, you don't even know me. I'm sure you are a constitutional ranger but keep in mind that as George Bush said, "it's just a god damn piece of paper". The fact of the matter is that ALL governments are just people calling themselves the state and they have men with guns who back up their dictates.
The constitution started to be ignored before the ink even dried on the paper. In fact, the constitution was "unconstitutional" because the Articles of Confederation never had a mechanism for repeal.
The bottom line is that whatever your believes are don't really matter because people calling themselves the state of Michigan will enforce 750.227 against you regardless of if it is constitutional or not.
Sorry, but I'm not interested in your semantic arguments just as the 15 dead people in Yemen from the accidental drone strike were killed without due process, the fact that it was "unconstitutional" doesn't change the fact that they are dead.
By the way, why do you "really hate people like" me? Didn't Jesus preach peace and love or are you one of the pharisees that Jesus warned about?
I'm not talking about killing people in the name of Jesus. He did tell His followers to carry arms. I don't check with some politician to see if it's ok.
Everything you said is true regarding governments and power. You have presented two sides, the governments and the people. One against the other. I will always side with the people who will be free. The only ones who are free, are those who throw off their bonds.
Good, then you realize that the only way one could truly be free ALSO involves leaving your neighbor alone, no matter if they are gay or whatever the boogeyman excuse is.
Most people aren't interested in freedom and neither are most gun owners. Case in point, Ron Paul only received about a million votes.
So people are suppose to start a revolution yet they couldn't even get off their collective fat butts and vote for Ron Paul?
Either they are that lazy or they are only absolutist on the 2nd amendment but support intrusion or outright tyranny in other areas of freedom and government... especially when it comes to drugs, taxes, sexuality or property rights.
Even though I decided the 2nd amendment is my pet issue and "the hill to die on" if you will even I get tired of 2nd amendment rangers who are totally inconsistent with other areas of liberty.
Although I can't speak for you because I don't know, it is my experience that many in the Jesus crowd are very interested in the arm of the state controlling the lives of people that they don't approve of, all they care about are their guns and their view of Christianity.
Anyway, back on topic. 750.227 has been thoroughly explained and whether you like it or not, that's what it says. Just as I despise Australia's gun laws, there is nothing I can do about it.
Jared, it's really not worth it.
He is apparently so wrapped up in his own narcissism that he can't get beyond his initial (mis)understanding regarding most anything. Much like his ineptitude for not even considering that my reason for deleting one post where I explicitly stated "advocating violence" applied to me deleting all of his posts after he advocated violence, his prepubescent behavior continues unabated.
You and I have had civil disagreements in the past and I have never felt that you were doing anything less than presenting an argument logically; I always enjoy discussions especially those in which I can learn something. This person's posts, however, generally add nothing to be helpful; at best they tend to be a distraction in an otherwise informative conversation and, at their worst, they are perfect examples of what not to do.
It is truly best to just ignore him because doing anything else is akin to feeding in to a 3 year-old's tantrum.
At least you're working for the side that suits you.
LOL, I remember our disagreement, which I was definitely wrong about.
I understand where he is coming from, but I would honestly rather put him on to a positive message, perhaps the Free State Project, perhaps listening to the Liberty Radio Network.
I honestly believe him to be frustrated by things and I understand to a large degree. Although I am not a Libertarian, I am a libertarian.
I don't think he's a troll and I honestly think he's just not sure what the solution is to 2A issues or to issues of government/use of force in general.
I do know that reading his comments is sometimes easier to do than it is to deal with some of the folks on migunowners
Honestly the best post I've read all day. Very true. Don't hate me because I value freedom enough to want to kill those who threaten it. Foreign enemies are someone elses problem, it's the domestic enemies, those who are supposed to protect these freedoms but are the cause of it's loss that really get me in a flame.
LOL, I remember our disagreement, which I was definitely wrong about.
I understand where he is coming from, but I would honestly rather put him on to a positive message, perhaps the Free State Project, perhaps listening to the Liberty Radio Network.
I honestly believe him to be frustrated by things and I understand to a large degree. Although I am not a Libertarian, I am a libertarian.
I don't think he's a troll and I honestly think he's just not sure what the solution is to 2A issues or to issues of government/use of force in general.
I do know that reading his comments is sometimes easier to do than it is to deal with some of the folks on migunowners