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Heard over IMPD scanner

WNCTarheel

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Was listening to IMPD on broadcastify. They had a call (Paraphrased):

Dispatcher: "Black male w/ a gun. Need officer to check him out."

Officer: "What's he doing?"

Dispatcher: "Sitting on a porch step."

Officer: "Is he pointing the gun at someone?"

Dispatcher: "No, it's in a holster on his belt."

Officer: "That's not illegal. You can cancel that."

Dispatcher: "10-4. Cancelling call."

And dat, folks, is the Way It Should Be Done.
 

MAC702

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Wow. Though that's the conversation Dispatch should have had with the caller instead of wasting the officer's time on the radio. But still, that just blows a huge hole in the oft-repeated blue power-trip line: "If we get called, we have to go..."
 

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Of course they don't have to go...it's just that some of them are power hungry beta humans who hope and pray they get that very call from dispatch so that they can troll people under color of law.
 

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Excellent!!

Boy, I would like to hear that about 10,000 times. Then, I would say we are making progress. Short and sweet!
 

rightwinglibertarian

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Was listening to IMPD on broadcastify. They had a call (Paraphrased):

Dispatcher: "Black male w/ a gun. Need officer to check him out."

Officer: "What's he doing?"

Dispatcher: "Sitting on a porch step."

Officer: "Is he pointing the gun at someone?"

Dispatcher: "No, it's in a holster on his belt."

Officer: "That's not illegal. You can cancel that."

Dispatcher: "10-4. Cancelling call."

And dat, folks, is the Way It Should Be Done.

YES!! About time you had an LEO with a brain inside his head
 

jackrockblc

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But still, that just blows a huge hole in the oft-repeated blue power-trip line: "If we get called, we have to go..."
Agreed, but that policy is probably not universal. It may, in fact, be required in some jurisdictions to investigate all 911 calls in some areas. I don't have any specifics to back me up; just saying that a single call like this does not mean that it invalidates the excuse in nearly 18,000 agencies across the nation.
 

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Agreed, but that policy is probably not universal. It may, in fact, be required in some jurisdictions to investigate all 911 calls in some areas. I don't have any specifics to back me up; just saying that a single call like this does not mean that it invalidates the excuse in nearly 18,000 agencies across the nation.
Agreed, but I'm not arguing department policies, just simple logic.
 
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Dispatch: "Negative, we're not cancelling. Report to scene"
Officer: "Dispatch, arrived on-scene, found individual on porch with holstered pistol. Back in service."
Dispatch: "Did you investigate?"
Officer: "Affirmative. Found one individual on his porch with a holstered pistol, the report was correct. Back in service."
Dispatch: "What did you do about it?"
Officer: "I told him I wished I had one that nice. Back in service, Dispatch."
 

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Agreed, but that policy is probably not universal. It may, in fact, be required in some jurisdictions to investigate all 911 calls in some areas. I don't have any specifics to back me up; just saying that a single call like this does not mean that it invalidates the excuse in nearly 18,000 agencies across the nation.
I really doubt the police department has a policy to investigate every call. The lawsuits would start flying. When they get busy, they just don't come. They have no legal duty to go to any emergency call at all, and sometimes they will stop responding if manpower restrictions mean they can't. They don't have to even answer the phone of "911". In California , their was a time on the busy nights that 50 % of the time you called LAPD, the phone just rang busy. I remember watching a armed robbery 30 feet way from my apartment. I called LAPD 5 times and just got a busy signal in the two minutes. I had my gun pointed out my window at the robber, and finally scared him away before the (drunk) person he was robbing,and not cooperating, got hurt.

Remember the saying among policeman. "don't worry, when the end of your life could be seconds away from a criminal action, we will get there within 10 minutes".
 

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Dispatch: "Negative, we're not cancelling. Report to scene"
Officer: "Dispatch, arrived on-scene, found individual on porch with holstered pistol. Back in service."
Dispatch: "Did you investigate?"
Officer: "Affirmative. Found one individual on his porch with a holstered pistol, the report was correct. Back in service."
Dispatch: "What did you do about it?"
Officer: "I told him I wished I had one that nice. Back in service, Dispatch."
This is more accurate...
 

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This is more accurate...
Really? So where you work, dispatch pushes you around? I find that hard to believe, but there are all kinds of policies out there.

Some areas DO have policies that all calls get a dispatch if caller insists. In my experience officer grumble about being dispatched even though the officer can then cancel the call. Those calls could probably be best handled by the officer showing up at the complainant's house and having a little chat with him/her. Truth is, there are MANY calls that shouldn't be made to the Police/Fire Department. Chances are, if you call more than once or twice a year (if that), you should probably move and/or you are making some calls that really aren't Police/Fire worthy.
 

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Really? So where you work, dispatch pushes you around? I find that hard to believe, but there are all kinds of policies out there.

Some areas DO have policies that all calls get a dispatch if caller insists. In my experience officer grumble about being dispatched even though the officer can then cancel the call. Those calls could probably be best handled by the officer showing up at the complainant's house and having a little chat with him/her. Truth is, there are MANY calls that shouldn't be made to the Police/Fire Department. Chances are, if you call more than once or twice a year (if that), you should probably move and/or you are making some calls that really aren't Police/Fire worthy.
Dispatch doesn't. The Sgt who runs comms does. You tell a dispatcher (civilian) to get screwed and you get written up by Sgt in there. So you "go" where they tell you. Period.

Notice the "" around go? That's intentional. Do guys simply drive by and clear the call? Yes. Do guys not bothr even driving by and clear the call? Yes. But when you "go" to the call and clear it as if you were "there" and s***** hits the fan...... Its your a** on the line. That simple.

So you either go to the call or you don't and it's on you.
 

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GPS is hella cheap these days.

Say it's for "officer safety" and when Officer Friendly says he's at 1st and Main clearing a call when he's really at 66th and Ivanhoe isn't going to fly. At the very least he's made a false official statement.
 

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Plausible deniability works both ways. The top cops WANT to be able to be ignorant. There's liability if you aren't.
 

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GPS is hella cheap these days.

Say it's for "officer safety" and when Officer Friendly says he's at 1st and Main clearing a call when he's really at 66th and Ivanhoe isn't going to fly. At the very least he's made a false official statement.
GPS is used by some departments for this reason.

But what your saying would force officers into MORE interactions over dumb things.

The neighbors call 6 times because they don't like the open carry group outside.... Well I guess officer friendly will be driving by 6 times and waving since his gps will show if he blows the call off.
 

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GPS is used by some departments for this reason.

But what your saying would force officers into MORE interactions over dumb things.

The neighbors call 6 times because they don't like the open carry group outside.... Well I guess officer friendly will be driving by 6 times and waving since his gps will show if he blows the call off.
Actually, maybe officer friendly should make a detour by the second call and have a chat with the neighbors; you think?
 

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Actually, maybe officer friendly should make a detour by the second call and have a chat with the neighbors; you think?
I agree. And it does happen sometimes. Especially when its continuous calls about legal activity.

Unfortunately the people who make calls about legal activity because it "scares" them are part of the public that the "servants" serve. In fact they have the same right to service as you or I do. Sucks sometimes they abuse this right (I use that term loosely) to bother other good citizens, but it happens.
 
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