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HF517 (2017) send to governor for signature

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Thanks to the NRA and Iowa Firearms Coalition ( http://www.iowafc.org ):

The bill: https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislation/BillBook?ga=$selectedGa.generalAssemblyID&ba=HF517

The highlights:
- Stand Your Ground – Under HF 517 a law-abiding citizen would have no duty to retreat from any place where the person is lawfully present before using force to defend themselves.
- 4th Amendment protections in regards to “going armed with intent” – HF 517 clarifies that the intent element for the crime of “going armed with a dangerous weapon with intent to use it without justification,” a Class D felony under state law, cannot be presumed or inferred from the mere carrying or concealment of a firearm on or about the person or in a vehicle.
- Capitol Carry – Prevents the Director of the Department of Administrative Services from prohibiting the otherwise lawful carrying, transportation, or possession of any handgun in or on any capitol buildings.
- Restricting State of Emergency Powers – Prevents the Governor, any state official, an official of any political subdivision acting at the direction of the Governor, and other officials from exercising powers during a proclaimed state of emergency to prohibit, regulate, or curtail the otherwise lawful possession, carrying, transportation, transfer or defensive use of firearms or ammunition, or to seize or confiscate legally possessed firearms and ammunition.
- Youth Shooting and Parental Rights – HF 517 would give Iowa youth the ability to learn handgun safety only “under the direct supervision” of a parent or other specified responsible, authorized adult in a safe and responsible way.
- Permit Privacy – The bill restricts the use and disclosure of information acquired about holders of nonprofessional permits to carry weapons and permits to acquire firearms. The Commissioner of Public Safety and any issuing officer (County Sheriff) would be required to keep confidential all personally identifiable information about such individuals, except for expressly authorized disclosures.
- Numerous additional changes to the laws regarding concealed carry and the permitting process.

... which include:
- carry permit renewals no longer require any new training
- purchase permits are now valid for 5 years (was 1 year)
- target shooting on unincorporated private land protected from any nuisance complaints/regulations
- charges for failure to have permit in possession when carrying concealed shall now be dismissed by court clerk upon presentation with evidence that a valid permit existed at the time of the offense. Charges shall be dropped, but court fees will be assessed as a fine. (the language that appears to allow open-carry without permit in direct possession, as long as it exists, does not appear to have changed, but wait till the final bill is viewable in its entirety to verify)



And a nice finale speech from a legislator who is really pissed at the Aaron Dorr family scammers, who aren't even making a pretense of doing anything anymore, while claiming credit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFuu0zskoU
 
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I don't have anything but a Facebook video link, but it seems there is a fuller response to the politician's assertion: https://www.facebook.com/likeiowagunowners/videos/1522390701118468/
Ya, Dorr is a professional fundraiser and con artist, he is great at talking and spreading lies. He was also directly involved in facilitating the campaign finance fraud that landed Senator Kent Sorenson in prison. But feel free to believe him if you enjoy being played.

Even the media is starting to catch on, finally: http://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Iowa-lawmaker-calls-Iowa-Gun-Owners-group-a-scam-418712193.html

If you really want to test it, post anything questioning this on his facebook page, and count the minutes until he deletes it and bans you - dissent isn't good for business. He's probably scammed over a million dollars so far, and never passed a bill.

There are many threads documenting his crap on ar15.com ( https://www.google.com/webhp?q=site:ar15.com/forums+iowa+gun+owners+aaron+dorr ), other facebook groups ( https://www.facebook.com/trueiowagunowners/ ), and even dedicated web pages ( http://iagunowners.org/ ).
 

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Update: Bill Signed

From: Iowa Firearms Coalition <actionalerts@iowafc.org>
Date: Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:16 AM
Subject: DONE! Gov. Terry Branstad Just Signed the BIGGEST Gun Bill in Iowa History
...
House File 517, the biggest gun bill in state history IS NOW THE LAW OF THE LAND! Permit Privacy and the Supervised Youth Handgun Shooting provisions are fully in effect. The rest of the bill, Stand Your Ground, Short Barrel Rifles, Emergency Powers and so on, will take effect on July 1st.
...
If you like seeing pro-gun bills signed into law it's time to join the group who's proven itself time and time again:
Shall Issue
Legalized Suppressors
ATV Carry
THE BIGGEST GUN BILL IN STATE HISTORY
JOIN THE IOWA FIREARMS COALITION
 

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Ya, Dorr is a professional fundraiser and con artist, he is great at talking and spreading lies. He was also directly involved in facilitating the campaign finance fraud that landed Senator Kent Sorenson in prison. But feel free to believe him if you enjoy being played.

Even the media is starting to catch on, finally: http://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Iowa-lawmaker-calls-Iowa-Gun-Owners-group-a-scam-418712193.html

If you really want to test it, post anything questioning this on his facebook page, and count the minutes until he deletes it and bans you - dissent isn't good for business. He's probably scammed over a million dollars so far, and never passed a bill.

There are many threads documenting his crap on ar15.com ( https://www.google.com/webhp?q=site:ar15.com/forums+iowa+gun+owners+aaron+dorr ), other facebook groups ( https://www.facebook.com/trueiowagunowners/ ), and even dedicated web pages ( http://iagunowners.org/ ).
I don't know the man, but looking carefully at those links, I see nothing but sour grapes.
 

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I don't know the man, but looking carefully at those links, I see nothing but sour grapes.
Call it what you choose, but the man has behaved in a manner such that people suspect him of being at best an amoral profiteer, and at worst an anti-gun plant.

When your group spends untold thousands of volunteer hours getting legislation through, and someone who has literally 0 involvement alternately slanders you and claims credit, for years on end, while raking in cash, I call it righteous anger.
 
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Call it what you choose, but the man has behaved in a manner such that people suspect him of being at best an amoral profiteer, and at worst an anti-gun plant.

When your group spends untold thousands of volunteer hours getting legislation through, and someone who has literally 0 involvement alternately slanders you and claims credit, for years on end, while raking in cash, I call it righteous anger.
or called politics!

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