shad0wfax
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You did an excellent job, Melanie. You really slammed that idiotic Detective Lieutenant a number of times. The 95% web-poll supporting Melanie is awesome! There are some real gems hidden away in that long video. I'm so glad that the caller Carol stated that people were naïve about where they could be attacked. She says she was nearly assaulted in a ladies restroom in a quiet area in a good part of town. That shot holes through the entire argument against carrying at a soccer game because it's safe there.
I'm outraged that Lebanon County District Court Judge and President Judge Robert J. Eby had the audacity to say,"There are times when someone's conduct is perfectly legal, but it's still wrong." That kind of moral judgement on a legal issue is the sort of thing that should have a judge removed from the bench anddisbarred as an attorney. Is he then alleging that the law is wrong? His job as a Justice is not to judge the morality of a law, but to judge the actions of the accused in accordance with existing laws.
Detective Lieutenant Steven Rogers says, "Well ya-know ye-ye-you've gotta talk about responsible ownership. I think there's a lack of judgement here." [...] If a fight breaks out at a game, and we've seen these things happen at sporting events, that gun, she could be disarmed and she brought the gun to the party and yer gonna have a tragedy on your hands. The other problem we run into in law enforcement is people who carry theseweapons to these events, in the event there's a critical incident and a tactical unit from the police department has to come, who's the bad guy?She gonna have her gun out pointingit at someone? So these are the things these individuals don't consider when they bring these weapons to these events."This guyis a traitorous waste of law enforcementspace. He insinuates thatMelanie is irresponsible. He blatantly states that Melanie lacks judgement. Furthermore, he has the typical "union-cop" attitude that guns are for LEO's, not people, and we should all be relying on cell-phones and leave defending our lives to them. The idea that a private citizen may defend theirown life threatensthe"union-cop's"job security is ridiculous. Police officers shouldn't have that sort of attitude. The fact is, Melanie is completely within the bounds of the law.Her husband is a law enforcement officer. I'm willing to betshe's talked with her husband, in detail, how to behave if she does have to use deadly force and the police arrive.
BryanMiller, Executive Director for Ceasefire, New Jerseysays "...and anytime there's a gun present it creates a coercive situation. Melanie is going to have the upper hand in any discussion, argument, or whatever, because she's carrying a gun and other people aren't, and that's not right."
Melanie's response hadme laughing myrear off:"Well I don't know, I'm carrying today. Am I going to have the upper hand in the conversation today?" :lol:
He gets so upset that he loses his ability to argue coherantly. He almost chokes up when he talks about Texas. When Bryan goes on talking about deadly force decisionsin her state, he again ignores the fact that Melanie's husband is a law enforcement officer. Bryan claiming that he's opposed to gun-control is laughable. He keeps talking about training and competence. He repeats she could be disarmed and people could be killed as if it's a mantra and this is completely contrary to his statement that he's against gun-control. It sounds more like he's in favor of Senator Obama's "Common sense gun-control."
I'm very happy that Melanie slammed that upstart Lt. Detective with the "Well let's see, when seconds count the police are minutes away, so when they show up and I've already taken care of it, then I put my firearm down and I say, 'Hey it's taken care of." Lt Det. gets all worked up about the threat to his job security again.
Bryan Miller's arrogance is unbelievable. He alleges that she is petty and selfish. His disrespectful and condescending attitude towards Carol and Melanieis morally wrong. When her life is in danger he says her only right is to scream and yell, not defend herself. At least the Lt. Det. sides with Carol on that one...
Edit (fixed the ï in naïve, yay)
You did an excellent job, Melanie. You really slammed that idiotic Detective Lieutenant a number of times. The 95% web-poll supporting Melanie is awesome! There are some real gems hidden away in that long video. I'm so glad that the caller Carol stated that people were naïve about where they could be attacked. She says she was nearly assaulted in a ladies restroom in a quiet area in a good part of town. That shot holes through the entire argument against carrying at a soccer game because it's safe there.
I'm outraged that Lebanon County District Court Judge and President Judge Robert J. Eby had the audacity to say,"There are times when someone's conduct is perfectly legal, but it's still wrong." That kind of moral judgement on a legal issue is the sort of thing that should have a judge removed from the bench anddisbarred as an attorney. Is he then alleging that the law is wrong? His job as a Justice is not to judge the morality of a law, but to judge the actions of the accused in accordance with existing laws.
Detective Lieutenant Steven Rogers says, "Well ya-know ye-ye-you've gotta talk about responsible ownership. I think there's a lack of judgement here." [...] If a fight breaks out at a game, and we've seen these things happen at sporting events, that gun, she could be disarmed and she brought the gun to the party and yer gonna have a tragedy on your hands. The other problem we run into in law enforcement is people who carry theseweapons to these events, in the event there's a critical incident and a tactical unit from the police department has to come, who's the bad guy?She gonna have her gun out pointingit at someone? So these are the things these individuals don't consider when they bring these weapons to these events."This guyis a traitorous waste of law enforcementspace. He insinuates thatMelanie is irresponsible. He blatantly states that Melanie lacks judgement. Furthermore, he has the typical "union-cop" attitude that guns are for LEO's, not people, and we should all be relying on cell-phones and leave defending our lives to them. The idea that a private citizen may defend theirown life threatensthe"union-cop's"job security is ridiculous. Police officers shouldn't have that sort of attitude. The fact is, Melanie is completely within the bounds of the law.Her husband is a law enforcement officer. I'm willing to betshe's talked with her husband, in detail, how to behave if she does have to use deadly force and the police arrive.
BryanMiller, Executive Director for Ceasefire, New Jerseysays "...and anytime there's a gun present it creates a coercive situation. Melanie is going to have the upper hand in any discussion, argument, or whatever, because she's carrying a gun and other people aren't, and that's not right."
Melanie's response hadme laughing myrear off:"Well I don't know, I'm carrying today. Am I going to have the upper hand in the conversation today?" :lol:
He gets so upset that he loses his ability to argue coherantly. He almost chokes up when he talks about Texas. When Bryan goes on talking about deadly force decisionsin her state, he again ignores the fact that Melanie's husband is a law enforcement officer. Bryan claiming that he's opposed to gun-control is laughable. He keeps talking about training and competence. He repeats she could be disarmed and people could be killed as if it's a mantra and this is completely contrary to his statement that he's against gun-control. It sounds more like he's in favor of Senator Obama's "Common sense gun-control."
I'm very happy that Melanie slammed that upstart Lt. Detective with the "Well let's see, when seconds count the police are minutes away, so when they show up and I've already taken care of it, then I put my firearm down and I say, 'Hey it's taken care of." Lt Det. gets all worked up about the threat to his job security again.
Bryan Miller's arrogance is unbelievable. He alleges that she is petty and selfish. His disrespectful and condescending attitude towards Carol and Melanieis morally wrong. When her life is in danger he says her only right is to scream and yell, not defend herself. At least the Lt. Det. sides with Carol on that one...
Edit (fixed the ï in naïve, yay)
