hugh jarmis
Centurion
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If a civil case is going to be filed, unless Travis has a huge amount of time and effort to devote to research and preparation, I think he will be best positioned for a civil case by obtaining adequate counsel now.
If he doesn't truly intend to file a civil case, I believe the facts of the the case and the law is on his side 100% and costly legal counsel might be a waste of money. BUT its not my record on the line and everyone must do what they must to sleep well at night.
Ditto. If all people are going to do is fight far enough to get out from under the criminal charge, I cannot continue to throw money at one after another. Its pointless.
But if they are willing to commit to filing a civil suit, we have something to talk about.
IN addition, per the legal counsel i communicated with this morning, upon filing of a civil case, the cost of legal counsel for the defense of criminal charges and civil action are recoverable if one should be succesful in said civil action.
As such, I think monies "invested" so to speak by myself and others in the defense should be returned upon reward of damages/legal fees in a civil action.
Of course if enough people were willing to donate and the cost/per person was very low, I'd just as soon not go through the mechanics of returning $10 each to 500 people and rather see any money recovered donated to a pro-OC cause (radio campaign) or the like. On the otherhand,if we don't have 500 people willing to donate $10 each and its goign to take large donations, if I'm going to drop another $500 or $1000 or more (which I'll only do if Travis or whomever commits to civil action) then I would expect that "investment" returned or a portion pursuant to what is recovered in a successful civil case.
Upon communicating with trustwrothy unbiased legal counsel this morning, I rescind my previous comments about not getting an attorney for the muni case.The fight to change behavior is via civil action - hopefully, the Defendant in this case is getting adequate counsel to approach the case wholistically with a follow on civil action in mind.
If a civil case is going to be filed, unless Travis has a huge amount of time and effort to devote to research and preparation, I think he will be best positioned for a civil case by obtaining adequate counsel now.
If he doesn't truly intend to file a civil case, I believe the facts of the the case and the law is on his side 100% and costly legal counsel might be a waste of money. BUT its not my record on the line and everyone must do what they must to sleep well at night.
I've got money, but only if he goes after it... I'll donate to the cause of kicking some JBT ass, but not just giving money away for nothing...
Ditto. If all people are going to do is fight far enough to get out from under the criminal charge, I cannot continue to throw money at one after another. Its pointless.
But if they are willing to commit to filing a civil suit, we have something to talk about.
IN addition, per the legal counsel i communicated with this morning, upon filing of a civil case, the cost of legal counsel for the defense of criminal charges and civil action are recoverable if one should be succesful in said civil action.
As such, I think monies "invested" so to speak by myself and others in the defense should be returned upon reward of damages/legal fees in a civil action.
Of course if enough people were willing to donate and the cost/per person was very low, I'd just as soon not go through the mechanics of returning $10 each to 500 people and rather see any money recovered donated to a pro-OC cause (radio campaign) or the like. On the otherhand,if we don't have 500 people willing to donate $10 each and its goign to take large donations, if I'm going to drop another $500 or $1000 or more (which I'll only do if Travis or whomever commits to civil action) then I would expect that "investment" returned or a portion pursuant to what is recovered in a successful civil case.