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Maine Governor Signs Permitless Carry into law

Grundi

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unless you take the 2A literally, like it should be and say all 50 states are in fact constitutional carry. But of course such an idea is absurd :p
Yep. Government says "pay us ex amount of money, to exercise a right you already have or we'll harass you, assault you, kidnap you and extort more money from you." Isnt that what the 2A was meant to prevent? Tyranny?
You, sir, have some very dangerous ideas, that if you keep expressing them, may infect others...:cool:
 

rightwinglibertarian

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You, sir, have some very dangerous ideas, that if you keep expressing them, may infect others...:cool:
eeerm. I'm the guy that tags companies and politicians and calls them out on Facebook - publically. And on Twitter. Grape and I have had our moments as well and my news aggregator page has probably given a fair few liberal a coronary. If people can't accept the Constitution as final - get out and toddle off to China :p
 

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Ding, ding, ding!! Winner, winner, lobstah-flavored, chicken dinnah.

That question was what this new law was about. Open carry has been recognized for a long time, but, if you put your jacket on and your jacket was long enough to cover your sidearm, boom, you needed a concealed carry permit, special training, pass a background check, and get special permission for your local (or state) constabulary. For...the...act...of...putting...a...jacket...on. I do realize that concealed carry usually means IWB or some other deliberately method, but our law made no allowances for either method. Shortly, it won't matter.

We also still need permits if we want to be afforded the "special rights" granted by the Federal Government to permit holders. Maine, being a very scenic and beautiful state with several federal and state parks, having a permit allows us to carry within most of them. We also get reciprocity from other states.


Yes and no (see below). Maine had another law passed and signed that removed the discretionary recognition of out of state permits from the chief of the Maine State Police, and now simply reads that if your state recognizes Maine permits than we automatically recognize yours. By the way, there is currently 23 or 24 states with reciprocal agreements with Maine.


When the law takes effect, out of state carriers won't need a permit. Like the argument that says that there is no excuse for ignorance of the law; by extension, the law pertains to all who are within the jurisdiction of the state of Maine. One thing to keep in mind, if you carry "pursuant to" this law, you also have the responsibility to inform a LEO during an encounter with them (arrests, traffic violations, or detainments).
Maine had crappy reciprocity before this law (Maine hardly recognized any other permits, other states will recognize all other permits including Maine). This should allow reciprocity with almost all other states that have reciprocity.
 

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Maine had crappy reciprocity before this law (Maine hardly recognized any other permits, other states will recognize all other permits including Maine). This should allow reciprocity with almost all other states that have reciprocity.
The operative word above is "should." The queston that people what answered is, "Does it?"
 

Grundi

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Rights versus Law

So, will the Constitutional Carry apply only to Maine Residents (Been hearing that one on other boards) or will visitors be covered under it as well?
Generally speaking, rights are for residents while the law is for everyone within the jurisdiction. Since this is a change in the law, it applies to everyone. Visit Maine and you can open carry, conceal carry, partially open partially conceal carry (letting your hair - if you have any - and your long coat blow in the pure Maine air).

Maine had crappy reciprocity before this law (Maine hardly recognized any other permits, other states will recognize all other permits including Maine). This should allow reciprocity with almost all other states that have reciprocity.
We've had several changes to the gun laws here in Maine; one of which governs reciprocity. When the laws take effect (90 days after the adjournment of our Legislature), here is a quick summary of what's changed:
1. Concealed carry is now permitless and for anyone who is 21 and older (except for active serviceman and veterans, 18 or older)
2. Reciprocity is now based on recognition instead of discretion. Our Chief of the State Police had the discretion to recognize or deny whomever he wanted. Now, when a State recognized Maine's concealed permit, we'll automatically recognize that State's permit/license.
3. Age limitation for firearm hunting has been removed; however, any hunter under the age of 16 must be accompanied by an adult. Any hunter under the age of 10 must have an adult within a few feet.
4. Silencers (law includes a description) are now legal.
5. The definition of a person how can legally possess a firearm is changes to exclude anyone convicted of domestic violence, is currently charged with domestic violence (but not yet convicted) or who is currently named on a "justifiable" protection order
6. (not yet signed and currently disputed whether it will be veto'd or not) Our Chief of the State Police will be the sole issuer of concealed carry permits, removing that ability from any city or township with a municipality Chief of Police.

Quite a few changes and, with an exception or two, a good year for gun owners in Maine.
 
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