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medical weed = no guns

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“Your medical marijuana use disqualifies you from ownership of firearms and ammunition,” read the letter signed by police chief Susan Ballard,

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http://www.bradenton.com/news/nation-world/national/article187082303.html#fmp
first, the Honolulu PD is correct in what their letter stated regarding possession of firearms and using marijuana or any illicit substances ~ against federal statutes. (USC 922(g)(3))

(The penalty for violating this law is ten years imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine) if convicted by court of law!

so the Honolulu police are taking it upon themselves to enforce Federal statutes? quite unusual in and of itself but remember HI’s firearm ownership statutes are quite onerous almost meeting NYC or the Windy City strictness and citizens requiring a permit to purchase and CC permits are may issue!

not sure which point the Chief is making ~ she doesn’t like the firearms in her city or is upset w/legalization and proliferation of marijuana in Honolulu?
 
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A rather moot point, I think. From what I've read, Hawaii doesn't issue CC "permits" to anyone - except bodyguards to celebrities, perhaps. I have relatives in Hawaii (never been there and won't be going), and they say they've never heard of anyone who wants to own a gun, much less carry one. But from other things they tell me, nearly everyone uses cannabis. Must grow there like a damned weed or something! LOL

Their choice to live there, obviously.
 
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“Your medical marijuana use disqualifies you from ownership of firearms and ammunition,” read the letter signed by police chief Susan Ballard,


Thoughts?

http://www.bradenton.com/news/nation-world/national/article187082303.html#fmp
I know this is an old post but..I work for the tax collectors office and had an applicant that tried to show me his medical marijuana card as his primary ID ,he still applied after producing his fl dL ...No idea if the State sent him a CWP or not , we only process and renew CWPs.
 

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This legalization is getting Stupid.....

The gov't is playing the citizens like a fiddle. After 8+ decades of "War on drugs" against it's own citizens, Ruined and Destroyed citizen lives, Disenfranched citizens rights, Stripped the citizens of their Self respect and Dignity, Destroyed families, Wasted Trillions of dollar, Rampant corruptions and now the gov't want to become legally sanction "Drug Dealers" because they can generate money? WTF...What a scam
 
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This legalization is getting Stupid.
. I agree. Legalizing Schedule I drugs will have the USA on par with the Mañana Cultures.

I like to imagine the Viking Saxon family Olaf and Helga. Helga: Olaf, you lazy oaf, get your ‘self’ on the roof and stop the leak. Winter is coming! Olaf: Pfwwt-ahhh! Mañana mama!” Helga would have his guts for garters and the family would freeze. The climate is a changing even now.
 

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. I agree. Legalizing Schedule I drugs will have the USA on par with the Mañana Cultures.

I like to imagine the Viking Saxon family Olaf and Helga. Helga: Olaf, you lazy oaf, get your ‘self’ on the roof and stop the leak. Winter is coming! Olaf: Pfwwt-ahhh! Mañana mama!” Helga would have his guts for garters and the family would freeze. The climate is a changing even now.

Yeah its like people who want to smoke pot don't because of the "war on drugs" now.

The gov has no business regulating a plant that has many medicinal uses with much less risk than big pharma money makers.
 

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. I agree. Legalizing Schedule I drugs will have the USA on par with the Mañana Cultures.

I like to imagine the Viking Saxon family Olaf and Helga. Helga: Olaf, you lazy oaf, get your ‘self’ on the roof and stop the leak. Winter is coming! Olaf: Pfwwt-ahhh! Mañana mama!” Helga would have his guts for garters and the family would freeze. The climate is a changing even now.
Yes it is.......So now more focus will be on the 2A infringements. You see, they don't make enough money on fees and tax stamps, so they are creating a scene, then eventually infringed laws, tax everything associated to firearms in the name of public interests.
 

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Yeah its like people who want to smoke pot don't because of the "war on drugs" now.

The gov has no business regulating a plant (THAT OUR CONSTITUION ARE WRITTEN ON) that has many medicinal uses with much less risk than big pharma money makers.
 
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Anybody who takes drugs for recreation in my opinion is an idiot. On the other hand freedom means you have the right to be act stupid. There should be no laws against drugs.

That said, a doctor should be able to prescribe any drug he believes might help a patient. For instance, a person is dying of cancer, what possible difference does it make if the doctor gives him pot or heroin? So if you have a prescription for medical Marijuana you have your guns taken away, but you can be on controlled meds like narcotics and there is no problem.

Under this ridiculous notion anyone who ever drinks alcohol should not be able to own firearms. Did I say that? It's probably coming.
 

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Anybody who takes drugs for recreation in my opinion is an idiot. On the other hand freedom means you have the right to be act stupid. There should be no laws against drugs.

That said, a doctor should be able to prescribe any drug he believes might help a patient. For instance, a person is dying of cancer, what possible difference does it make if the doctor gives him pot or heroin? So if you have a prescription for medical Marijuana you have your guns taken away, but you can be on controlled meds like narcotics and there is no problem.

Under this ridiculous notion anyone who ever drinks alcohol should not be able to own firearms. Did I say that? It's probably coming.
Gov has no authority to remove a persons weapons IE guns over a legal act. Period.
 

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I think what you mean to say is that it should have no authority. The government is clearly exercising the authority, and not being stopped. So, in point of fact, it has the authority.
 

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I think what you mean to say is that it should have no authority. The government is clearly exercising the authority, and not being stopped. So, in point of fact, it has the authority.
No I meant to say what I said.

Just because a mugger has the ability to rob you, and does, doesn't mean he has authority to do it.

In the same vein, just because gov oversteps it's authority, passes a illegal law, breaking the law of the land and happens to have paid mercenaries willing to enforce that null void decree, does not mean they ever had or have the authority do so.

Ability to do something isn't the same as having authority to do it.
 

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Then you are wrong.

The mugger can be tried and convicted because he does not have the authority. No one from the government will be tried and convicted for enforcing the law as it is on the books. They have the authority.

Your logic fails, and I am done.
 

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In this discussion, to topic at hand was the as-written application of the law. The fix is not to deny the de jure authority, but to take it away.
 

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Certainly. They [governement agents] have the authority when no authority exists in the law on the books. See Heien. And Kelo for that matter, now that I think of it.
 

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Then you are wrong.

The mugger can be tried and convicted because he does not have the authority. No one from the government will be tried and convicted for enforcing the law as it is on the books. They have the authority.

Your logic fails, and I am done.
Nope.
 

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Cops will walk when the misapply a law, thanks to SCOTUS and their Heien travesty.
Use the Tort law and take them to court.

Gov't only have powers that "WE THE PEOPLE" gives them.......It has been abused and manipulated over the years by dumbing down society with Big Mac , Buffets and Diet Cokes....and when the questions is asked, which would you have? Big Mac or Firearms, most will pick Big Mac.
 
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