So let me get this straight. I have a CHL, but lets say I did not. From now to the middle of november, because some people are hunting, I would not be permitted to OC? Do I have this right?
No, only if you're hunting.
So let me get this straight. I have a CHL, but lets say I did not. From now to the middle of november, because some people are hunting, I would not be permitted to OC? Do I have this right?
cause hunting is never dangerous. You know, I would love it if the politicians would read the second amendment about not abridging the bearing of arms. We could stop a whole bunch of nonsense by just doing that.
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since my son is wanting to start hunting in VA now. we have discussed this.
PETER, can you cite the law that says you can't OC? i have looked and it seems to talk about CCing.
Legal Methods and Restrictions During Archery Deer Seasons
Special restrictions may apply during this season. See Legal Use of Firearms and Archery Equipment and Local Firearms Ordinances for details.
- Archery tackle (including crossbows) only.
- Broadhead widths must be at least 7/8- inch wide or expand upon impact to 7/8-inch.
- Bows must be capable of propelling a broadhead arrow at least 125 yards.
- It is unlawful to use explosive head arrows or arrows to which any drug, chemical, or toxic substance has been added.
- It is unlawful to use dogs, except that dogs may be used to track wounded or dead deer (see Hunting with Dogs)
- It is unlawful to have a firearm in possession except that a muzzleloading firearm, as defined in the muzzleloader deer seasons section, may also be in possession when and where there is an overlap with a muzzleloading deer season where deer hunting with a rifle or muzzleloading firearm is permitted (see exception for valid concealed handgun permit holders).
Valid Concealed Handgun Permit Holders May:
- Possess a concealed handgun during archery seasons, muzzleloader seasons, and general firearms seasons.
- Possess a concealed handgun on National Forest and Department lands during the closed season.
- Possess and transport a loaded concealed handgun in or on any vehicle on National Forest and Department lands.
- Possess a concealed handgun while using dogs for tracking wounded or dead bear or deer but no game may be taken.
Yeah you guys have a nit to pick there, but still in the greater scheme of things it's gun frickin' friendly Virginia. Try a couple months sentence...uh stay in NOhio (not a typo) to better appreciate all you guys got.
If it's got four feet, a black body and a white stripe down it's back and stinks.....It's probably a skunk!
Peter, so if I'm understanding you correctly, you are not allowed to carry a firearm on your own land or your place of employment if you are hunting unless you have a CHP?
Who exactly is going to enforce this on YOUR land if you tell them to stay off of it? Not that I'm suggesting ignoring the rule at all because I know you wouldn't dream of doing that, I'm just trying to understand if what I'm thinking it means is actually what it means.
Well.....Scouser, forum rules prohibit me saying where I draw the line and ignore laws that are unfair, but generally, I try to obey hunting laws. Game Wardens (Conversation Police) do have the authority to go on private land without papers or probable suspicion to look for game violations. They don't go out in the woods much because they look a little like deer I'm told, but they usually catch people going out and coming back from hunting.
To answer your question...there is zero chance I'd get caught, but still it is an enforceable law. I've endured countless posts from North of the Ni'ers over the difference between that and driving within a thousand feet of a school without the almighty permit. The difference is simple. Driving past a school with a gun is NOT enforceable in Virginia. It's like driving without a seatbealt. It's a secondary offense. It isn't illegal until you do break a primary law also.
It's also a PRIME EXAMPLE of P4P and shouldn't be overlooked for that reason.
This puts alot of my questions out the window. I drive past schools all the time and wonder weather or not there could be a issue with my OC. I knew about the 1000 foot CHP rule (bs) and its kinda obvious its stupid. If they have to have it then it should only apply if you are going onto the school grounds. The ROAD is not school grounds! Care to give the cite? Or some kind of example?
Gun Free School Zone Act of 1996.
http://www.gunlaws.com/Gun_Free_School_Zones_Act.pdf
Interesting your link says it must be in a locked container, where VA law says
"(vi) a person who possesses an unloaded firearm that is in a closed container, or a knife having a metal blade, in or upon a motor vehicle, or an unloaded shotgun or rifle in a firearms rack in or upon a motor vehicle;"
To clarify the links says this
"(I) not loaded; and
(II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack
which t h a t is on a motor vehicle;"
To further clarify these quotes are listed exceptions for having a firearm on school grounds. And no these are not the only exceptions. (just incase someone less informed reads this post)
This puts alot of my questions out the window. I drive past schools all the time and wonder weather or not there could be a issue with my OC. I knew about the 1000 foot CHP rule (bs) and its kinda obvious its stupid. If they have to have it then it should only apply if you are going onto the school grounds. The ROAD is not school grounds! Care to give the cite? Or some kind of example?
OK I'm confused.. what are the laws regarding carrying within 1000 ft of schools? I OC on my walks and I pass right by a school :uhoh: I always cross the street when I get to the crosswalk (which is right in front of the school). I just don't want to get in trouble in case a LEO sees me. They tend to set speed traps across the street from the school.