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OC ban at Capitol, public demonstrations proposed

solus

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Dave, good to see your smile for the year...

However reading the bill attached to your cite,
House's & Senate's bill states it is strictly for firearm, er, weapons & absolutely nothing about open carry on
"State capitol grounds or any building located on state capitol grounds."

Senate's bill 5038, filed late Dec 2020, defines "Demonstration" means conduct by one or more persons communicating or expressing views or grievances which has the effect, intent, or likelihood of attracting a crowd."
and​
'...it is unlawful for any person to knowingly open carry a firearm or any weapon as described in this chapter while participating in or attending any demonstration being held at a public place.

so one citizen constitutes a demonstration?

further per sec1b, your visible knife sticking of your pocket is also forbidden as is "...or other similar weapon that is capable of causing death or bodily injury."

also interestingly your cite states:
Openly carried weapons had been banned from both House and Senate public viewing areas and public hearing rooms at the Capitol a few years before that, according to previous reporting from The Associated Press.

as personally brought up on this and other WA related firearm forums over the years...why in bloody sam hill have the august firearm carrying citizens of the evergreen state continuously allowed these savants to remain in office as well as allowed the idiotic "initiative" process to persist in crippling what the majority of this nation's firearm carrying citizenry enjoys?

did you post in the PI or the NT about your distain of this senate bill or even on WAGun forum under your "workman corner"?

as stated dave, good to see your smile for the year?
 

color of law

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This is what is proposed to be added to the law.
(2)(a) Unless exempted in (c)of this subsection, it is unlawful or any person to knowingly open carry a firearm or any weapon as described in this chapter while participating in or attending any demonstration being held at a public place. This subsection (2)(a) applies whether the person carries the weapon on his or her person or in a vehicle.

(b)It is unlawful for any person to knowingly open carry a firearm or any weapon within 1,000 feet of a demonstration at a public place after a duly authorized state or local law enforcement officer advises the person of the demonstration and directs the person to leave until he or she no longer possesses or controls a weapon. This subsection (2)(b) does not apply to any person possessing or controlling any weapon inside a private dwelling, building, or structure.

(c)Duly authorized state and local law enforcement officers and personnel are exempt from the provisions of this section when carrying a firearm in conformance with their employing agency's policy.

(d)For purposes of this subsection, the following definitions apply:

(i)"Demonstration" means conduct by one or more persons communicating or expressing views or grievances which has the effect, intent, or likelihood of attracting a crowd. "Demonstration" includes, but is not limited to, a march, rally, vigil, sit-in, or picketing. "Demonstration" does not include casual use of property by visitors or tourists which does not have an intent or likelihood of attracting a crowd.

(ii)"Public place" means any site accessible to the general public for business, entertainment, or other lawful purpose. A "public place" includes, but is not limited to, the front, immediate area, or parking lot of any store, shop, restaurant, tavern, shopping 36center, or other place of business; any public building, its grounds, or surrounding area; or any public parking lot, street, right-of-way, 38sidewalk, public park, or other public grounds.
Simplistically unconstitutional. Open carry is a first amendment statement.
 
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