OC for ME
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Indeed, he shooting from his mouth before iron cleared leather...never a good result from pulling the trigger prematurely...foot seems to come to mind...hmm. ![Wink ;) ;)](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
over the weekend had the opportunity (read forced to use it) the sepra and forgot it was a retention holster and bout broke the bloody thing pulling like h3ll & trying with all my might to get my firearm unholstered...then went into the DUH mode when i remembered i switched holsters due to the venue i was attending.
i didn't get laughed at too terribly bad and had to grin and bear it...sigh
ipse
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over the weekend had the opportunity (read forced to use it) the sepra and forgot it was a retention holster and bout broke the bloody thing pulling like h3ll & trying with all my might to get my firearm unholstered...then went into the DUH mode when i remembered i switched holsters due to the venue i was attending.
i didn't get laughed at too terribly bad and had to grin and bear it...sigh
ipse
Using/training w/Serpa has instilled in me to use the Serpa finger slide/stroke no matter what holster I am wearing. Good condition 'cause it keeps the bogger hook off the bang switch until intended to be there.That's been my experience as well. No matter how I pull on the firearm, it will not release from the retention, nor will the holster get pulled out of my waistband -- the hook inside seems to prevent that. Yet when I actuate the release it slides out without delay. I'm well pleased with this OWB holster.
Safariland makes fine holsters. I am very enamoured with their Quick Locking systems. If I were an active LEO or military (running towards the gunfire) that is what I would like to utilize.--snipped--
For just a few dollars more, I moved on to the Safariland 6377/6378 series (the 78 series comes with two ways to attach, a belt loop and a paddle). It is almost impossible to jam (never say never, right?) and even with tension on the pistol the thumb release will still work. Plus, you can get a ALS guard to protect the release that is only a tick slower than no guard at all.
To reply to this question earlier in the thread, I'm a newbie and I really like my CZ 2075 RAMI in a DeSantis holster. I don't remember the model number off the top of my head but it was fit for one of the smaller glocks and it fits the CZ like a glove.Thanks for the replies, seems most prefer more than one level of retention holster, i.e Serpa or similar.
I found this in an article concerning the recent OC law in TX.
“Retention” Holsters v. Non-Retention Holsters
There is an old saying among experienced handgunners, “Every step toward holster retention is a step away from rapid deployment.” In layman’s terms, this means that the harder it is for a bad guy to get your gun out of your holster, the harder it is for you to get it out when you need it.
So does anyone use a friction only retention holster, i.e. Predator pancake
http://www.wrightleatherworks.com/products/predator-pancake-holster
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Or Aliengear OWB holster
http://aliengearholsters.com/alien-gear-cloak-slide-owb-holster-outside-the-waistband.html/
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Or custom leather OWB holster
http://aceleatherworks.com/
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Or custom leather shoulder rig
http://www.armoryexpressoutlet.com/Shoulder-holsters_c_62.html
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I only ask because before I found this website I would only CC my XDM Compact .45 ACP. I have several CCW holsters, N82, Aliengear, Crossbread appendix, a custom leather holster, custom shoulder rig, and few others. Personally I do not like CC as I really have not found a holster I truly find comfortable and it gets to be expensive buying a holster only to find out you really don't like it. I still CC on occasions where I know I will be asked to leave with an OC pistol, i.e. movie theater, casino, etc.
So back to OC holsters, I find that an OWB holster is much more comfortable, and I can use some of my holsters as an OC but they only have the friction retention, which for the most part I am okay with. I have even used the holster that comes with the XDM to OC and its actually quite comfortable to wear.
I appreciate everyone's responses and welcome all input, recommendations, and thoughts i.e. PRO's / CON's of Retention vs Non-Retention holsters for OC.
Remember the banished user/member who said he could draw faster from CC than we could from OC? :lol:
He may have been fast, but he didn't shoot straight (with us) - he missed his target and paid the price. Such is life.
There is always the ol' fashion snap strap.Found this article today short to point with pics.
https://www.floridacarry.org/index....-open-carry-holster&catid=16:safety&Itemid=27
All of my holsters (CC holsters) are open top kydex or leather or combo of the two, friction only holsters except my vertical shoulder holster which has a retention strap, and like I said I can use some of them as OC as well.
I really do prefer the look, feel, smell of leather vice kydex. Are there any leather holsters made with a retention device other than the thumb break strap?
Thanks again for your input, it is appreciated.
Like many others, I carried with a SERPA for many years with no problems.
For just a few dollars more, I moved on to the Safariland 6377/6378 series (the 78 series comes with two ways to attach, a belt loop and a paddle).
Like many others, I carried with a SERPA for many years with no problems.
But... it DOES have problems
1) as has been noted, it can jam if you crawl around in dirty areas, either from choice or because you were forced to.
2) and more importantly to me, if you attempt to pull the pistol from the holster before activating the release it can jam, forcing one to release tension on the pistol and activate the release fully which slows the draw.
For just a few dollars more, I moved on to the Safariland 6377/6378 series (the 78 series comes with two ways to attach, a belt loop and a paddle). It is almost impossible to jam (never say never, right?) and even with tension on the pistol the thumb release will still work. Plus, you can get a ALS guard to protect the release that is only a tick slower than no guard at all.
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Why all the SERPA's???
When I worked in a gun shop, I asked the owner 'why are we carrying Serpa's when we know they aren't the best choice?' His reply was that the manufacturer gave amazing deals on them which boosted his bottom line. Which explains why you see them Everywhere.
I wouldn't expect to see a thumb release from that view either as the thumb (and release) would be on the opposite side of the pistol.I don't see anything in that picture but friction retention. You mention a thumb release, but I see no mechanism that holds the firearm in the holster.