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Open carry prosecution, interesting comments by police chief.

nonameisgood

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If they are self insured as many municipalities are, then the tax payers will foot the bill.
That will motivate change. Teach the majority that f'n with a single person can cost everyone. Do a better job picking public servants.


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OC for ME

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Bald Knob ex-police chief Ballentine to appear in federal court today to receive his slap on the wrist of probation. Does anyone know if Bald Knob police have changed their ways since all of the corruption came to light?

http://www.thedailycitizen.com/
Is there a realistic expectation of change? Or, is there a public outcry for change? If the former is a no then the latter will too be a no.
 

taxman

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I hope the insurance company did NOT payoff on the truck.
They did, but the feds dropped charges of mail fraud in exchange for a guilty plea on the stolen Beretta shotgun and a promise of restitution to the insurance company. This would be from one of the same federal persecuting attorneys who would make sure you or I spent at least ten years in Club Fed for what Balentine did.

At least he's now a federal felon and (hopefully) nobody will ever pin a badge on his chest again.

https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/03/31/bald-knob-police-chief-cuts-federal-gun-felony-plea-deal-not-charged-with-arson-for-torching-own-truck/
 
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NewZealandAmerican

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Don't make the taxpayer pay for the law suit

If they are self insured as many municipalities are, then the tax payers will foot the bill.
The taxpayer shouldn't be made to foot the bill for the actions of crooked public serpents er servants, go after their bonds instead:

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]LIBERTY: How to sue crooked public serpent employees, go after their bonds!> PEOPLE!!!!! Stop trying to sue the city and making the public pay for it!!!![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Simply do some research on how to file a lien with the company that provides bonding numbers of these officers and city officials involved!!!!! The city has a fund set up for law suit like this.... That we the people pay for. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]So instead of suing the public, put a lien on the bonds of the people that are misusing their power! With out a bonding number or a lien on one, these people/persons can not conduct business in commerce until the debt or payment is settled!!! Prime example...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]http://educationcenter2000.com/remedies-in-commerce/affidavit_of_obligation.pdf[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
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[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Not only that, take the individuals involved to US District Court and sue in their private capacity. Nationallibertyalliance.org will show you how.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
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[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Harley Borgais:[/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]This is WHY we dont have a 'Justice' system, most people just BEG, and ASK, and say what they FEEL, and WANT...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]History has PROVEN, what the majority WANTS, is war and genocide, or leads to it, inevitably. 'Socialism', 'Communism' (aka 'Nazism' in German), Pure 'democracy', have been the biggest FAILURES in all Human history, and have CAUSED MASS DEATH, "Genocide"![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]THE REASON is what God said: "My people are destroyed from lack of Knowledge'...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]SPECIFICALLY, these FundamentalPrinciples of law[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText](GOD I wish these links would work. THAT^ should be a link to this page: https://www.facebook.com/FundamentalPrinciples-517986018382964/ I still cant figure out WHY those only work sometimes????)...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Anyways...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO BE FREE, AND HAVE JUSTICE...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Everyone must learn these FundamentalPrinciples of law (In these 'LawDocs', on Police Encounters and Law Basics, the actual "Law of the Land", btw, and 'any Thing...to the Contrary [is] notwithstanding'), and HOW to use AdministrativeRemedies like PresumptiveLetters to GovernPublicServants, #LIKEaSOVEREIGN, Like this...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3R8PPYDc3WCMFpPUGx0Y0UzN2c/view[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText](Now for links, since they wont work right here...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://www.facebook.com/AdministrativeRemedies-419994304864475/ [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://www.facebook.com/PresumptiveLetters/ [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://www.facebook.com/GovernPublicServants/[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]The actual upload page for the LawDocs is here: [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://www.facebook.com/groups/FreedomFilesGroup/files ][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]So quit 'asking' with petitions, and start 'telling'...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]IS THIS JUDGE VIOLATING THEIR OATH OR NOT?[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Articulate HOW, cite the law or other obligation they are violating, and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]File Judicial complaints for judges, bar for lawyers, FBI for govt. agencies enforcing unconstitutional/unjust orders or legislation, Civil complaints for contract violations, torts...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText] (Harm caused that was not criminal, NOTE: "Crime" has three elements: "Corpus Delicti"="Injury or harm", threat, endangerment, etc. Probable or actual, not just possible or hypothetically; "Mens Rea"='Intent or inexcusable neglect' as the cause; and "Actus Reus", violation of a VALID criminal law, but 'An unconstitutional act is not a law', and if its inequitable, unfair, its unjust, and thats unconstitutional, inexorably, inherently)...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]File Criminal Complaints IF you have valid cause (See above), and remember...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]One is 'not entitled to immunity' when they 'reasonably should have known' they 'violated clearly established law(s)' like these: FundamentalPrinciples, ESPECIALLy The law of 'Equity'...if its unfair, its inequitable, unjust, unconstitutional, unlawful, inherently, inexorably. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]THROUGH ALL HUMAN HISTORY ITS BEEN THE SAME PROBLEM...the ONLY solution is for the avg. person to learn HOW to GovernPublicServants #LIKEaSOVEREIGN.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]There is NO other solution to 'government' corruption![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Our forefathers knew this, and thats WHY they designed OUR 'government' to be US, 'We the People', who HIRE 'Public Servants', and SHOULD 'bind them by the chains of their oaths', but I have asked over 130 and NOT ONE even KNOWS IT! [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Thats ALL YOUR FAULT PEOPLE! Have you even read the whole constitution? If not, YOUR are the CAUSE of 'government' corruption! PERIOD! SO FIX IT![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Learn law and live free, #LIKEaSOVEREIGN, or die hard, #LIKEaSLAVE![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

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countryclubjoe

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The taxpayer shouldn't be made to foot the bill for the actions of crooked public serpents er servants, go after their bonds instead:

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]LIBERTY: How to sue crooked public serpent employees, go after their bonds!> PEOPLE!!!!! Stop trying to sue the city and making the public pay for it!!!![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Simply do some research on how to file a lien with the company that provides bonding numbers of these officers and city officials involved!!!!! The city has a fund set up for law suit like this.... That we the people pay for. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]So instead of suing the public, put a lien on the bonds of the people that are misusing their power! With out a bonding number or a lien on one, these people/persons can not conduct business in commerce until the debt or payment is settled!!! Prime example...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]http://educationcenter2000.com/remedies-in-commerce/affidavit_of_obligation.pdf[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Not only that, take the individuals involved to US District Court and sue in their private capacity. Nationallibertyalliance.org will show you how.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Harley Borgais:[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]This is WHY we dont have a 'Justice' system, most people just BEG, and ASK, and say what they FEEL, and WANT...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]History has PROVEN, what the majority WANTS, is war and genocide, or leads to it, inevitably. 'Socialism', 'Communism' (aka 'Nazism' in German), Pure 'democracy', have been the biggest FAILURES in all Human history, and have CAUSED MASS DEATH, "Genocide"![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]THE REASON is what God said: "My people are destroyed from lack of Knowledge'...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]SPECIFICALLY, these FundamentalPrinciples of law[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText](GOD I wish these links would work. THAT^ should be a link to this page: https://www.facebook.com/FundamentalPrinciples-517986018382964/ I still cant figure out WHY those only work sometimes????)...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Anyways...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO BE FREE, AND HAVE JUSTICE...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Everyone must learn these FundamentalPrinciples of law (In these 'LawDocs', on Police Encounters and Law Basics, the actual "Law of the Land", btw, and 'any Thing...to the Contrary [is] notwithstanding'), and HOW to use AdministrativeRemedies like PresumptiveLetters to GovernPublicServants, #LIKEaSOVEREIGN, Like this...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3R8PPYDc3WCMFpPUGx0Y0UzN2c/view[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText](Now for links, since they wont work right here...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://www.facebook.com/AdministrativeRemedies-419994304864475/ [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://www.facebook.com/PresumptiveLetters/ [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://www.facebook.com/GovernPublicServants/[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]The actual upload page for the LawDocs is here: [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]https://www.facebook.com/groups/FreedomFilesGroup/files ][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]So quit 'asking' with petitions, and start 'telling'...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]IS THIS JUDGE VIOLATING THEIR OATH OR NOT?[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Articulate HOW, cite the law or other obligation they are violating, and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]File Judicial complaints for judges, bar for lawyers, FBI for govt. agencies enforcing unconstitutional/unjust orders or legislation, Civil complaints for contract violations, torts...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText] (Harm caused that was not criminal, NOTE: "Crime" has three elements: "Corpus Delicti"="Injury or harm", threat, endangerment, etc. Probable or actual, not just possible or hypothetically; "Mens Rea"='Intent or inexcusable neglect' as the cause; and "Actus Reus", violation of a VALID criminal law, but 'An unconstitutional act is not a law', and if its inequitable, unfair, its unjust, and thats unconstitutional, inexorably, inherently)...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]File Criminal Complaints IF you have valid cause (See above), and remember...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]One is 'not entitled to immunity' when they 'reasonably should have known' they 'violated clearly established law(s)' like these: FundamentalPrinciples, ESPECIALLy The law of 'Equity'...if its unfair, its inequitable, unjust, unconstitutional, unlawful, inherently, inexorably. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]THROUGH ALL HUMAN HISTORY ITS BEEN THE SAME PROBLEM...the ONLY solution is for the avg. person to learn HOW to GovernPublicServants #LIKEaSOVEREIGN.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]There is NO other solution to 'government' corruption![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Our forefathers knew this, and thats WHY they designed OUR 'government' to be US, 'We the People', who HIRE 'Public Servants', and SHOULD 'bind them by the chains of their oaths', but I have asked over 130 and NOT ONE even KNOWS IT! [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Thats ALL YOUR FAULT PEOPLE! Have you even read the whole constitution? If not, YOUR are the CAUSE of 'government' corruption! PERIOD! SO FIX IT![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText]Learn law and live free, #LIKEaSOVEREIGN, or die hard, #LIKEaSLAVE![/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText][/FONT]
[/FONT]

Thank you for the informative post and I like where you are going with your theory, however the issue is simply that the individual officer usually gets fired from their job, in that case they are BROKE hence no income to lien or if they chose they can file for bankruptcy again you receive NOTHING..

Suing the agency may encourage them to hire more competent people. While also waking up the tax payer to get involved in the hiring process of their agents..

Keep in mind that when suing someone, " you can't get blood out of a rock".. Go after the money...

My .02
Regards
CCJ
 

NewZealandAmerican

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Messages
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Thank you for the informative post and I like where you are going with your theory, however the issue is simply that the individual officer usually gets fired from their job, in that case they are BROKE hence no income to lien or if they chose they can file for bankruptcy again you receive NOTHING..

Suing the agency may encourage them to hire more competent people. While also waking up the tax payer to get involved in the hiring process of their agents..

Keep in mind that when suing someone, " you can't get blood out of a rock".. Go after the money...

My .02
Regards
CCJ
basically with the 2 articles I quote you go after the public official's bond or I think the agency's bond because the agency can no longer function without it útil they pay for the lien you attached to their bonding company. Well that's to my basic limited understanding. I haven't done this myself yet.
 

Va_Nemo

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As I understood it, that bond was there to pay you after you filed suit and was awarded a judgement against the person/corp/business by the jury or judge.

They are similar to an insurance policy but with a substantially more limited extent of coverage and basically someone else (corp or person) saying if he cannot pay the judgement I will.

Like often said, IAMAL. But I was one for near 15 years before I retired. And did it a time or 2. Not much more but once or twice, IIRC.

Nemo
 
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