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Theseus wrote:
It will matter little what language we use, and besides, how can we have "God given rights" when I don't believe in God?
MY REPLY:
Could it be that you are bright & intuitive and thus you don't believe in God because of all the UNbelievable Christians who purport to be of God?
Logic would dictate that if all these nuts are from God then the concept of God as they read and blather about is a manifestation of a mass hypnosis form of some mental disorder based on all the hippie cult like rosy eyed kooks who call them selves Christians ?
That is the logical steps I went through when I was young, I always got the "heebeegeebee's" when robotic yet harmless born-a-gain Christians would talk to me or try and save me
What I noticed for my own internal silent intuition & conclusion was that they are hypnotized to the point of self delusion and that they all had a big ego that would not allow them to actually "see" for them self that they are indeed in a state of denial and went down the wrong road.
I knew for sure that if Heaven is full of born-a-gain Christians then I do NOT want to go or be there, no way, I would rather hangout in eternity with my Pit bull dog.
It was obvious to me , that they were in some Matrix like semi reality state of self deception, so I rejected them .
"BUT" I noticed something quite by chance that I did not reject the God that they purport to represent and Yashuwa they claim who straitened them out.
I found out for myself that I have an inner teacher that was all along already in place and that preachers only got in the way , THEN I read about Yashuwa and He said the same thing, I knew I was onto the right path a solitary journey outside of a church, when I go into the woods rifle or camera in hand I AM in church,lol
I just saw them as completely broken humans who are subject to emotional hypnotic states thus susceptible to pseudo spiritual, rote religious & intellectually blind conversion to a state of obedient mass conformity.
I saw they they left behind intuition & silent knowing ( the signal from God ) and fell into intellectual study study study and emotional highs, emotional drama as a kind distraction , a kind of "salvation from true salvation".
Evil creeps who want validation and worship see this weakness and jump into preachers robes ( ambitious politicians to the same thing ) they rise to power to lead all these easily deceived sheep in the wrong direction, actually the followers and the leaders of apostate religions mimicking Christianity & liberal American politics deserve each other.
In other words they escaped from God to a false look alike apostate religion that acts like Christianity but leads you to no were but your own self deception.
Now guess what -----> I believe in God, :shock:and Yashuwa aka Jesus
lol.
I know what your gonna say : "Geeeezz Steve I thought you had a good well thought out argument & basis for rejecting the cult of mass Christianity, but now I see you just another fringe kook" :?
Well all I can say is its up to YOU alone to see what your own inner personal motivations are & the opinions you have, and if they are based on anger or resentment over all the hypocrisy you see in people all around then perhaps you do see the truth about them BUT you are also perhaps being misled and off the track because of your own emotional response which is in itself hypnotic and thus blocks the inner silent signal from God.
So perhaps your rejecting both the false and the real God due to the pressures of the world also perhaps due to the fact that you may have never ever met a true Christian only the majority cool-aid drinker version.
I get a LOT of crap from folks here for my views on religious Christianity about how I just insulted main stream Christians here, so what, would you rather I keep quiet and be a wuss.
I also jab liberals, pagans, and other such kooks for their views, so all is fair, oh and I truly believe that liberals, pagans, born again Christians and even Democrats have the right to KBA = Keep & Bear Arms.
If you cant handle the recoil get off the range & take up pacifism or Yoga.
Ya and I know that not everyone is Christian in the US of A , I am not blind.
I do know that everyone is born equal with the same pre-ordained rights, but once you come of age and adult responsibility then if you dont see that this is a Christian nation upon which all other religions are "allowed" to exist here in peace, yet not domination ( Islam for example ) then we will get along, if not and you decide that this is a pseudo deist or agnostic, perhaps pagan or co-equal religion nation then you and I have a fight on our hands.
I will fight & die for something, I will not submit to, defnd and die for a man man made, man inspired Constitution, that would be insane because I know I would have died for a temporal doccument that can be changed completely or ratifed out of existance and thus died for NOTHING.
I already own a debt to a million men who already died for SOMETHING.
I already beleived in God by serendipity before I beleived in the Constitutiuon, which I found the Constitution also reads with the same authentcity ( spirit) that the followerrs of Yashuwa wrote with in their sturgles for liberty to exress thee intangible dominion that animated them to die willingly .
I am already bound, if I do not believe in God than I am in my own Matrix as is any mans right to be crazy or in denial.
Myself I have no problem standing up and being called a kook, extremist or zealot.
What are men of good will ? who decides ? who makes the laws of morality ?
I stand for something, be that something that I stand for thought of by you as right or wrong is up to you, I actually respect your right to even hate me.
If you disagree with me then fine, if you hate me and want me to be locked up, shut down, muted, mediated or re-education then perhaps one day your right to KBA may come in handy against me to take me down and our out
You either with me on the whole founding fathers, Christian ethics nation, with immutable moral laws outside of man made morality ( inalienable right ) or against me.
Does that sound like a contradiction? , well there is war and then there is peaceful dominion.
There really is submission as the Muslims call it in this world on this earth, You either submit to what is right based on "something" or reject and fight against what is wrong based on something. but You WILL be forced to make a decision.
You MUST choose and gather up a mass of other who have chosen as you have, right now as it stands I a MUCH more in common with the typical bible thumper than I do with a Democrat or a Marxist so I have chosen to let you know I am on YOUR side in the 2A war to KBA and thus fight and defend your right to peacefully exist with gun in hand.
I wont lie to you and tell you I am 100% with you pagans or faithless athiests, I am not, but I too have MUCH more in common with you that I do an avowed Socialist.
So if you are willing to fight and die for the 2A , 1st A , and or the Constitution on the whole because You think it was inspired by Zeus or Micky Mouse I don't care right now I can use you on my side .
Its kind of like picking teams on a school ground touch football game during recess, I only have 15 min to get this thing together before time is up and I get take to the Marxist principles office to get whupped on for thinking I can speak my mind.
I already picked the best players and now I am gonna have to pick the rest of you guys to fill out my squad, lol
I will worry about if you can run or catch a pass latter I just need a bunch of you guys to fill the gaps and keep the other team from getting to the Constitutional quarterback.
We can all fight about who's founding father is better and who has the best bicycle after the game,
There is no other way, you need to figure it out FAST my pagan, agnostic, orthodox Jewish, atheist and born-a-gain Christian friends because we have more IN common that not.
At least the Muslims have the guts to take a black & white stand and proclaim our land the USA as part of earth as theirs.
I am a moral simpleton, when it comes to the foundations of America ,it is either right or wrong, inalienable or man made with vote and veto.
I could never think that a crazy Christian , a fringe guy like me, a Jewish man or a black man could one day be put to a majority vote and made into a half human and thus burned in an oven, that is crazy, because outside of this mortal world outside of mans laws and mans votes is a timeless law from a timeless law giver to which I am subject.
Even if it happens again, there will be guys like me who will fight to save the homosexual and the born-a-gain Christian from the ovens.
So even "if" I wanted to outlaw all human rights to live here in the U.S. for pagans, and Democrats ( I don't ) I could not because I cannot change what is inalienable from the Creator, its not the document that saves us for liberties opportunity to seek the happiness, it is the document "inspiror" / "He" which put the human hand to paper called the Constitution.
I am bound by a moderate from of acceptance yet dominion, a benevolent dictatorship were by my spiritual view of ethics rules, oh and by the way saves me from any of you guys from throwing me into the oven
because once you agree and are thus bound by the same inalienability you too are bound to protect & defend it against even me, no man is sacrosanct nor above that which is above us all, the document is but a title to a little bit of Heaven on earth expressed in text for those who wish to keep the water in the garden of Eden flowing with our blood. Sad but true its not everlasting Heaven but an island in the sand of sadness that is human afairs.
Some one once asked Gandhi : "What do you think of the Christian religion?"
He said : " I think it is a wonderful religion, I should like to see someone actually practice it for real one day"
