WalkingWolf
Regular Member
BTW where in the video was the carrier charging the AR? Talk about strawman, or making excuses for a phobia.
There are safety warnings on every gun manufactured in the US~~either show a cite that clearly demonstrates there is a problem or admit you are making stuff up.
I will admit no such thing. Do you read what other people write?
I'm not making a claim. I am learning about the gun and any potential idiosyncrasies. Some people on the net report accidental discharge. I think to myself, hmmm, I should research this further and find out if there is a real risk here or not. I've had my shiny, oily, new Colt all of a week now. Still gathering information and drawing conclusions.
The end.
That urban legend is subject matter for another thread... It is only silly nationalistic propaganda that perpetuates that little fib...
You brought this bull carp to this thread when the carrier was not even handling his AR. Then you made excuses on stories, and then brought up the manufacturers warning on every single firearm sold. Why not try to stay on the topic of the thread.
Wow you have had your Colt a week, I am impressed. (Sarcasm)
I have no idea how prevalent accidental discharge is with ARs or under what circumstances, but there are a few stories around the net. I would assume the case is very rare, but one must be extremely careful as the risk seems higher than with other types of firearms, particularly handguns.
BTW, I'm a new AR owner and just coming up to speed.
Indeed, which just goes to show that mechanical devices and their safety systems can fail, and why multiple redundant safety rules are important. I wouldn't want a little kid to hang out under my holstered handgun, either.
That's because sensible people (read: the vast majority of people who carry guns) carry handguns on a day-to-day basis for practical self-defense, not AR15s.
I mean, come on. You can do better.
Foolish for not wanting a loaded AR15 pointed at my head?
Are you ready for it?:
you are being a hoplophobe.
I am afraid of stupid people, even more afraid of people with a brain that don't utilize it.
Fine, then you're pathologically afraid of safety.
I am afraid of stupid people, even more afraid of people with a brain that don't utilize it.
I agree, this dude is capable of knowing much better than to walk around letting a loaded rifle point at people.
I agree, this dude is capable of knowing much better than to walk around letting a loaded rifle point at people.
you ever carry a handgun in a holster while in a multi-story building, on any floor above the first? If so, you might just be pointing it at the head of everyone below.
And even if the gun is loaded with a round in the chamber it is not going to go off without a booger finger on the trigger.
The claim that it would is the same stupid assumptions of anti crowd makes.
The fact is that guns in squad cars, in the racks of pick up trucks, stored in drawers, holstered handguns while seated, and so on are sweeping somebody while not in somebodies hands, if that bothers you lock yourself up in a concrete bunker. Or come out of the closet as a anti...
You ever carry a handgun in a holster while in a multi-story building, on any floor above the first? If so, you might just be pointing it at the head of everyone below.
So, only a finger can possibly depress a trigger? Shall we test this theory?
Clearly, I disagree.
Please don't reference the police as exemplars of safe behavior.
Ever again.
As I mentioned, the handgun has the advantage of being in a holster which covers the trigger guard, adding a layer of redundancy to the safety regimen.
Also, it matters that this is not trivially avoided, as is adjusting the cant on your slung rifle so that it isn't unnecessarily and avoidably pointing at people. Nothing can ever be completely safe, but this is so simple an enhancement as to argue for itself.
Y'all can argue with me until the cows come home, but I promise you will never change my mind, or convince me to do anything other than shun irresponsible, unsafe, selfish asshats like the one in question.
I can also promise you that I will do my best to to let all my friends, gun-owning and non-gun-owning alike, know that safe, responsible gun owners would never do something so needlessly, avoidably unsafe.
I will win this one, because I have the rules of gun safety which every knowledgeable gun owner is taught on my side. Do not point guns at something you do not wish to destroy.
Since we're making inapt comparisons to handguns, by y'alls logic, I could walk around pointing my handgun at folks' heads all day, so long as it isn't loaded or my finger isn't on the trigger. Maybe I'd have to make a contraption to hold it for me so it isn't "in my hands", but same difference. Simple, easily-followed, standard gun safety rules be damned!
Incidentally, it occurs to me that the implicit argument that a gun not being handled is inherently safe (maybe even safer) is specious. It is a common element of firearms training that a weapon is safest when handled in a control grip. Clearly, a slung weapon is neither holstered nor in a control grip, meaning the operator no longer has maximal control over, for instance, whether something (or someone?) inadvertently comes near the trigger.
All of this can be obviated by carrying properly, responsibly, and safely. There is no reason we should not set the example, and (at least) request the utmost responsibility from those among our fellow gun owners who are willing to be responsible, and to call out the rest for what they are.
Only a ignorant anti considers a gun NOT being handled pointed at anyone. Damn I bet you believe guns fornicate when left alone. Guns pointed are guns in the hands, not slung or in a case, rack, counter, table. I have not heard such ignorant fears from anybody but antis, how surprising to see so many here.
ARs have a free floating firing pin and there is a big, scary warning in bold, red type, in the Colt 6920 owner's manual warning the owner that the firearm may discharge if dropped, banged on the front or when closing the bolt on a live round, regardless of the setting of any safety devices.
I have no idea how prevalent accidental discharge is with ARs or under what circumstances, but there are a few stories around the net. I would assume the case is very rare, but one must be extremely careful as the risk seems higher than with other types of firearms, particularly handguns.
BTW, I'm a new AR owner and just coming up to speed.