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OC in Nevada

The Big Guy

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Hello! I'm new here and this is my first post. Yay! =)

I'm interested in open carrying and have read through this thread and have really gotten inspired so I appreciate everyone posting and sharing.

Unfortunately, my HUSBAND (see, girls aren't always the wussy ones =) is very against me open carrying. He has a friend who is very into concealed and keeps telling him all these horror stories and miss information about open carry. I did send him to this website, but he pretty much picked out all the stories about people getting hassled and all the really negative stuff.

To be honest I'm a little nervous about just doing it. I'm a non confrontational person so I'm not sure how I would react to negativity and I think being asked to leave would make me cry. =)

I was raised in Tennessee, gun control is something that I learned along with walking. It's something I've taught to my son. When we go home for the holidays we always go to the range with my family and make a fun day of it. My husband shoots, not as well as I do... =) But he's always the first one to step up and try out whatever new toy my parents have gotten. I'm just not sure how to loosen him up. I can relate to the previous post where the guy was carrying to the grocery store and got the cold shoulder from his wife. I would totally be in the dog house.

Does anyone have any advise on how to ease him into it when his issue isn't that he doesn't like shooting and doesn't have an issue with me carrying, as long as its not open?

Also, since it was brought up during the thread, from a girls point of view and even for a child, the best thing to do to get a girl or kid involved is to take them to an outdoor range with a 22 and shake up some soda cans. They are fun to shoot and the cans are fun to see results with so it makes it a funny yet informational trip. =)


Welcome to OC.org and thanks for saying hello. Tell your hubby to lighten up. Maybe a good way to change his sheepish way of thinking would be to bring him to the next get together. There is usually a lunch on the first Saturday of every month. By hanging out with all us low life gun toters, he may learn that maybe the idea does have some merit.

My wife was, shall we say, cautious, about the idea at first, but now she OC's. He'll most likely get used to it if he sees you do it with no alarms, sirens or arrests being made. He will be shocked to see that nobody runs in panic at the site of you and your firearm. Maybe you can find someone in your area to buddy up with the first few times. Learn the "rules" and you will be good to go.

TBG
 

MAC702

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Another great place to OC for the first time is at some of our sponsor gun shops, like Wild West Guns (Wynn & Hacienda) or New Frontier Armory (in the NW). Just remember that a sidearm being carried for defense is not to be removed from the holster. In other words, if you were doing holster shopping and planning on try-outs, or if you had a question for the gunsmith, etc, you would have that firearm UNLOADED and cased, not also be carrying it as your sidearm for that trip.

Welcome!
 

frodo0602

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shamrock

Welcome, shamrock. I'm fairly new to OCing as well. I was nervous the first few times. Still am a bit. but the more i do it, the more confident i am about it. It has been a great experience for me so far. I've mostly just had questions from people wanting to know more about OC. I always refer people to this site. I live in NLV area and would be glad to meet up with you. You and your hubby + me, wife and son could go to lunch or something. Or you guys could just wait until the next meet up, like mentioned above. I haven't been able to make it to a meet up yet. Keep trying to get one of my coworkers to meet up for lunch but no luck yet. let me know.

OH print out the pamphlet for nevada laws. This made me a little more comfy the first time...just to have it on me.
 

ed2276

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OC'd at Wal-mart, Tropical and Centennial Center, again last night. No problems related to OC. There was a hypervigilant employee, though.

I brought back a 42" TV to exchange. I had it in a cart and took it back to electronics. I was told I would have to go to Customer Service to initiate the exchange, so I headed that direction.

Customer service was at the front of the store, beyond the cashiers. As I rolled the cart/TV, with receipt in hand, past the check out area all of the cashiers ignored me, save one. As I passed by her check stand she snapped, "Where are you GOING with THAT?!". I am usually low key, but something in the tone of her voice rubbed me the wrong way. I may be over-sensitive, but I tend to get a bit testy when it is suggested that I may be trying to steal something and that suggestion is publicly implied in front of other people. I don't think it is good customer service practice. I snapped back, "To Customer Service!", and kept walking.

Of course, when I got to Customer Service they were just closing down the lane. I was redirected to one of the cashiers up front to process the exchange.
 
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Rollbar

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you would have that firearm UNLOADED and cased, not also be carrying it as your sidearm for that trip.

Welcome!


That would constitute a concealed weapon, and if she does not have a permit, then she will b breaking the law. Am I correct?
 

MAC702

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I'm a little confused about that too.
In a briefcase it's concealed but in a gun case it's not?

Basically, this is how it is viewed.

The law, as usual, is very poorly written.

Yes, technically, a gun case is concealing a weapon. Without a permit, everyone is technically breaking the law every time they hand-carry their cased handgun anywhere, INCLUDING INSIDE THEIR OWN HOME.
 
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ed2276

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But if you place the case on the floor and kick it with your foot are you ok? ;)


Nooooo...every time your foot touches the case you commit a separate concealed weapon offense. Instead of having just one concealed weapon offense for carrying it all the time, you will be charged with about 150 separate concealed weapon charges. :banana:
 
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MAC702

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No, private property U can conceal carry, i.e. your home or yard...

Not according to state law. There is no private property exception for concealed carry. There is no enforcement (that I know of), but it is illegal, believe it or not.

Here is the primary definition, and several of us have looked through the entire section and found no exception for any private property:

NRS 202.3653 Definitions. As used in NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive, unless the context otherwise requires:
1. “Concealed firearm” means a loaded or unloaded pistol, revolver or other firearm which is carried upon a person in such a manner as not to be discernible by ordinary observation.
 
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FallonJeeper

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Yes, to the letter of the law, concealing a weapon, on your person, or carrying in a case (not in your car) is permissable only with a state recognized CCW permit.

There are some things such as right to privacy, private property. Some states actually identify that a CCW permit is only required for public places and not required to carry on/in your property. That usually includes all dwellings and land, but does not include vehicles that are not on your property. Unfortunately Nevada does not have such language that I can find.

I've seen this argument a number of times. It would be difficult to enforce. Law enforcement would be hard pressed to know that you were concealed carry on your property. If somebody sees it, well then it's in plain sight.

Same thing with carrying in a case. Whether it's in a briefcase, back pack, purse, or yes, even the case that the weapon came in when you bought it, if you carry it without a CCW, you're breaking the law. Which begs the question, when I buy my new semi-automatic with the Halo sights ;o), and put it in its brand new case, unloaded, and carry it, out of the gun shop, to my car, am I breaking the law?

The simple act of me carrying a case does not constitute a search, regardless of what they think I'm carrying. Do I carry a firearm in a case? Nope, not usually. I open carry, until I need to put my firearm in a case, like when I know I'm going through a Federal Gun Free School Zone (which again, is difficult to enforce). I'll pull over, unload my firearm and place it in the case and lock it. FYI - This is NOT brandishing.

If you want to take the chance that you won't get caught, that's up to you. I don't recommend for or against it. If you want to avoid the hassle, get a CCW permit.
 
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The Big Guy

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My understanding is even if you are carrying in its case, in a bag from the store where you just bought it, it is conceled and therefore illegal.

For the fun of it, I called the Henderson Police Dept and inquired on the procedure for registering a firearm. "Jean" told me that I was to bring it in unloaded, in a case, along with proper ID. When I explained to her that I was confused by what she was telling me, as my understanding is that if I have a cased gun in hand I was in violation of state CC law. She said that they would not arrest me for that. I asked her if it was ok to bring it in OC as to not be in violation of state law and she asked me what open cary was. She then said that could be misconstrued and they ask that I case it and bring it in. When I insisted that there was a problem with what she was telling me to do, she put me on hold. When she returned she curtly stated that I was to unload, case and carry it in. I thanked her for her time.

Hmmmmm????

TBG
 
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yotetrapper

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I get it... the cushy soft insides of a gun case are actually a "legal protectant/barrier". I always thought it was so my firearms didn't get scratched. LOL
 

Steve Larson

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I was actually going to ask this stuff on another thread, but since someone already opened the can of worms in this one......

Carry in case... so, because im visiting Las Vegas, and wish to OC for the very first time, I want to do things right... and since I will be staying in a hotel on the strip, I would have to walk through a casino, which we all know Security would pounce on me for.. So I was wondering how best to do this? Case it through the hotel/casino, then inconspicuously take it out, and put into holster, and then have to carry my case around with me down the strip? or is there a better idea?

Brandishing... I've heard this term a few times... so, I want to make sure it's not something illegal that I may inadvertently do. What is it?


Thank you to everyone on here, you are most helpful to a newbie/Canadian...
 

MAC702

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My understanding is even if you are carrying in its case, in a bag from the store where you just bought it, it is conceled and therefore illegal.

For the fun of it, I called the Henderson Police Dept and inquired on the procedure for registering a firearm. "Jean" told me that I was to bring it in unloaded, in a case, along with proper ID. When I explained to her that I was confused by what she was telling me, as my understanding is that if I have a cased gun in hand I was in violation of state CC law. She said that they would not arrest me for that. I asked her if it was ok to bring it in OC as to not be in violation of state law and she asked me what open cary was. She then said that could be misconstrued and they ask that I case it and bring it in. When I insisted that there was a problem with what she was telling me to do, she put me on hold. When she returned she curtly stated that I was to unload, case and carry it in. I thanked her for her time....

Correct.

I remember bringing handguns (cased and unloaded) to the desk sergeant for registration. Yes, that's right, an actual police officer handled these things back then, not the completely firearms-ignorant ladies I've had to deal with ever since. So, yeah, no problems whatsoever with cased and unloaded until...

A few years ago I had to register again at a police station. I went to the Metro substation on Mojave. I was literally yelled at by the lady behind the glass because my single-action revolver (which I had removed the cylinder from) was in a case and not being openly carried in my hands. I had to sit through the entire registration process getting lectured about concealed weapons...
 

FallonJeeper

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I was actually going to ask this stuff on another thread, but since someone already opened the can of worms in this one......

Carry in case... so, because im visiting Las Vegas, and wish to OC for the very first time, I want to do things right... and since I will be staying in a hotel on the strip, I would have to walk through a casino, which we all know Security would pounce on me for.. So I was wondering how best to do this? Case it through the hotel/casino, then inconspicuously take it out, and put into holster, and then have to carry my case around with me down the strip? or is there a better idea?

Brandishing... I've heard this term a few times... so, I want to make sure it's not something illegal that I may inadvertently do. What is it?


Thank you to everyone on here, you are most helpful to a newbie/Canadian...

Carrying to and from your room, in a case is considered concealed and without a CCW would be illegal.

Brandishing is defined as: 1. to shake or wave (as a weapon) menacingly or 2. to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner displaying your weapon in a threatening or menacing manner. Both of these key on the fact that your action is threatening and/or menacing.

There is no statute for "brandishing" in Nevada. In Nevada it's called - Drawing deadly weapon in threatening manner. - NRS 202.320 Here is the statute:

1. Unless a greater penalty is provided in NRS 202.287, a person having, carrying or procuring from another person any dirk, dirk-knife, sword, sword cane, pistol, gun or other deadly weapon, who, in the presence of two or more persons, draws or exhibits any of such deadly weapons in a rude, angry or threatening manner not in necessary self-defense, or who in any manner unlawfully uses that weapon in any fight or quarrel, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

2. A sheriff, deputy sheriff, marshal, constable or other peace officer shall not be held to answer, under the provisions of subsection 1, for drawing or exhibiting any of the weapons mentioned therein while in the lawful discharge of his or her duties.

[1911 C&P § 174; RL § 6439; NCL § 10121]—(NRS A 1967, 486; 1989, 1240)
 
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