Olympia Rally

[sudden valley gunner]

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PM sent Sylvia. Figured we have drifted far enough of topic in the thread but I wouldn't mind discussing further.

 

[tony d tiger]

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Norman wrote:

Not my place but Gogodawgs was the one with the Firearm on his right side.

That there is funny, I don't care who you are.

I'm not sure how I missed Gogodawgs. I was the guy in the blue raincoat, lakewood police memorial cap, and a Beretta in a SERPA....on my right side lol

I think this was the last "open carry" related post in this thread.

You folks after that oughta' get a room...
edit: LOL

 

[TWG2A]

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Saturday’s Second Amendment Rally in Olympia was a real test for all of us in the Second Amendment groups. It was a soaking wet deluge and the wind was quite challenging to say the least. With only one week to coordinate this event, logistics were an issue, but we all managed to pull together in ways I’ve never seen.

In particular, I have never seen such teamwork and unyielding effort as I have with Jim Beal and the folks at the [url]www.opencarry.org[/url] forum. They were able to procure donated beverages (cases and cases!), snacks, balloons and free giveaways. They found a person to do all of our printing for us and they were able to find a sound system donated for the event. They found an MC and they all pitched in to set up and break down the equipment, leaving the park grounds in pristine shape (of course). Nobody complained about the short timeline and everyone was more than willing to step up and help without asking what’s in it for them. Again, I have never before seen such effort and teamwork amongst that very diverse crowd. There’s a lot of really good information on their site and I suggest that, if you have any questions about our Second Amendment Rights, that’s a great resource for you. Of course, my site has a lot of info on 2A, but theirs is a forum so you will see discussion points and lots of other information that you will not find on thewakinggiant.com

Jay Devereaux loaned us his podium, even bringing it down to Olympia early so that we would have it set up before the 12:00 start time. He brought large boxes of coffee from Starbucks for everyone and he did that with his own money, never asking for reimbursement. (I’ll write more about Jay later. He’s been amazing in his sacrifice for the cause for freedom, and we ALL owe him our gratitude).

Carol Hawley, with the South Sound TEA Party showed up and took some great pictures of the event. She’s got a real eye for the camera, to be sure! You can find those pictures at her site [url]www.southsoundteaparty.com[/url] Thank You, Carol.

Tawnya Nourse brought her son and petitions to be signed. Unfortunately, there was some confusion as to which petitions we were promoting (I'm sorry, Tawnya) but hopefully she was able to work the crowd and get a few signatures.

Kerry Hooks showed up and performed the National Anthem every bit as good as the Great Kate Smith. Kerry, THANK YOU for your beautiful voice. It was lovely to hear and we were all amazed. And to the TEA Partiers…….. if you ever need someone to sing at your events,you will be very pleased with Kerry’s abilities. Absoloutely beautiful and moving, to say the least.

Several others contributed and attended the event and I want to Thank You ALL for your effort. Standing in the pouring rain and wind for hours isn’t how any of us want to spend our Saturday afternoon, but our Second Amendment Rights are being decimated before our eyes. If we lost the right to keep and bear arms, we will have nothing left and our future will be quite bleak. It is our last guarantee of freedom. PLEASE don’t let your children and grandchildren be stripped of that right.

I was hoping to see more TEA Partiers there, and I pray you will ALL get more involved in protecting our Human right to protection. GUN RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. I promise you that you will never find a more helpful and unwavering group of Patriots as those in the Second Amendment movement.

Once again, Thanks to everyone who participated in this event.

Sincerely,

Elisa Delaurenti

TWG PitBull

 

[Bookman]

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TWG2A wrote:

Kerry Hooks showed up and performed the National Anthem every bit as good as the Great Kate Smith. Kerry, THANK YOU for your beautiful voice. It was lovely to hear and we were all amazed. And to the TEA Partiers…….. if you ever need someone to sing at your events,you will be very pleased with Kerry’s abilities. Absoloutely beautiful and moving, to say the least.

I'll second THAT emotion! When I heard this woman start singing all I could think was "What a beautiful voice!" I was enjoying the sound of her voice so much that I never even noticed what it was she was singing. I came away thinking it was "God Bless America.":quirky

 

[END_THE_FED]

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Sylvia Plath wrote:

I do not hang out or know people who are in the Tea Party. I am sure that is what they want. Maybe they should get a bit less political with their anti-Obama signs. When you stand up and target a specific political party you are engaging in partisan political warfare. If they actually want what you claim they are pushing for they should rethink their partisan language. Their tone implies that they believe (R) are actually going to be better than (D)...I don't think so.

I cant speak for everyone who has gone to a "Tea party" rally. I will say that I wouldthink that most would welcome you , you may find some a**holes there,but they will be found anywhere.I think that percentage wise it is probably on par with the general population.

I think you will find that the "tea parties" have a pretty big mix of people.SomeIdentify themselves as "republicans" some as "Democrats" and most as "independent."I Think the Democrats are getting more attention at the moment because they are the ones"in charge." I think the most common message in the "tea parties" is a smaller government and aninterpretation of the constitutionthey feelmore closely resembles the "framers intent."

I thinkit is important to remember that a sign Bashing Obama is not necessarily a sign Bashing the "democrats" our one favoring the "republicans". Itmight simply be a sign bashing Obama.

When I say something negative about Obama that does not mean I am saying something negative about his party nor does it mean I am saying something good about the Republicans. My favorite current politician (Ron Paul) happens to be a "republican" this does not mean i favor that party over another.I don't

You mentioned that maybe some should try to appear a bit less partisan at times and I think this is good advice for everyone, we should all start voting for the person not the party.If I like what someone has to say and I think they are honest then I really don't care if their name is followed by a (D) or an (R) or anything else really.

Honestly I have a hard time telling the difference between the two "parties" with very few exceptions their members are all for a bigger and more power-full centralgovernment,a central bank that is destroying our dollar , and an interventionist foreign policy. sorry for the OT rant ill shutup now

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

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I think Americans are in one hell of a pickle and I am not sure what good voting one side or the other is going to do to get us out of it. Only time will tell. Hopefully the ditch we find ourselves in isn't our decline.

Our country is bankrupt. We deal with China who undervalues their currency--yet we still deal with those POS bastards. I am off to school...

 

[redboneshadow]

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It was a good turnout on Saturday. Was nice to be there to be supportive or our right. Think the weather kept some away even the media. Did not see anything on the news about it. Guess their ignorance has turned into fear. Now we need to establish that with the Government.

 

[1911er]

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Was there any coverage bye any of the news channels at all about the rally sat. I thought someone said king 5 had something but could not find it. Bye the way I enjoyed myself on sat. it was great working with all those that helped set up.

 

[knight_308]

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END_THE_FED wrote:

You mentioned that maybe some should try to appear a bit less partisan at times and I think this is good advice for everyone, we should all start voting for the person not the party.If I like what someone has to say and I think they are honest then I really don't care if their name is followed by a (D) or an (R) or anything else really.

Honestly I have a hard time telling the difference between the two "parties" with very few exceptions their members are all for a bigger and more power-full centralgovernment,a central bank that is destroying our dollar , and an interventionist foreign policy. sorry for the OT rant ill shutup now

I think you're exactly right. Most of those who are tea partiers are almost AS ANGRY AT BUSH II as they are at Obama. Obama just gets targeted because he's in power now.

It's simply an issue of size of government. It needs to be smaller. A small government doesn't have the power to force you into a camp because you're Jewish, like guns, are black, are gay, or don't have health insurance. A federal government restricted to the bounds of the Constitution is unable to restrict your rights in any of those fashions. Instead, our federal government is squandering our futures, our children's futures, to gain more power and get bigger so they can control what you say, what you drive, what you learn, what you eat, who your healthcare provider is, etc. Big government is the problem no matter who is in charge of it.

 

[Washintonian_For_Liberty]

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Never vote "D".... and only vote "R" if they are a Ron Paul clone.... the two party apparatus has screwed the American people.

If we are going to have any chance of returning this country to something with a government even half the size of what it is now, it is going to take a serious revolution of the mind. I'm 100% positive that I've lost 75% of my family to the leftists that spew propaganda in favor of Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the other extreme leftists in government... if I try and talk to them about our Republic... they call me unpatriotic and dangerous... because everyone knows we're a democracy and if I don't like our democracy, I should move...

I also know that at least 2/3s of my friends either don't want to talk politics or are Democrats. I don't know what it is like for any of you, but it is hard for me to find anyone who agrees that we're headed down the wrong path... it might have something to do with the fact that 95% of all my friends are here in western Washington or Canada.

 

[gogodawgs]

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Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:

Never vote "D".... and only vote "R" if they are a Ron Paul clone.... the two party apparatus has screwed the American people.

If we are going to have any chance of returning this country to something with a government even half the size of what it is now, it is going to take a serious revolution of the mind. I'm 100% positive that I've lost 75% of my family to the leftists that spew propaganda in favor of Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the other extreme leftists in government... if I try and talk to them about our Republic... they call me unpatriotic and dangerous... because everyone knows we're a democracy and if I don't like our democracy, I should move...

I also know that at least 2/3s of my friends either don't want to talk politics or are Democrats. I don't know what it is like for any of you, but it is hard for me to find anyone who agrees that we're headed down the wrong path... it might have something to do with the fact that 95% of all my friends are here in western Washington or Canada.

This is a huge problem! We need to and must talk about politics, even when we can't agree. Otherwise we just divide into groups and yell at each other from across the street. We must be open and engage in an open discussion of ideas.

 

[Washintonian_For_Liberty]

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gogodawgs wrote:

This is a huge problem! We need to and must talk about politics, even when we can't agree. Otherwise we just divide into groups and yell at each other from across the street. We must be open and engage in an open discussion of ideas.

half my family un-friended me on Facebook because I posted this statement "Our Republic is not a Democracy. Just because people win elections does not mean they can legislate anything. The Constitution is our supreme law and must be strictly adhered to or our Republic will wither on the vine. If Obama can refuse to show his original birth certificate and spend millions to protect it from being revealed and still be president, our country is not long for this world. Its only a matter of time before the Constitution and Constitutional rights we all seem to hold dear no longer have any teeth."

Now how is that something vicious or bad? I certainly don't know... but at least 1/3 of my family emailed me after I wrote that and said that I was a horrible person and to not expect an invite to Thanksgiving ever again. They called me a racist because I felt that Obama should at least prove he was born in the US by showing his original birth certificate.... is that too friggin much to ask? The rest just unfriended me with no explanation.

Interestingly enough, I have not lost as many friends on Facebook as I have family... but the trend still exists... and of my friends, they think I hate Obama... and any explanation I try to give pertaining to the needed adherence to our Constitution falls on deaf ears or they also claim I must really hate Obama.

The biggest one I get is.... "Where were you during the 8 years of Bush??? Huh!!! Huh!?!" to which I respond... "Oh, I don't know... living in Asia for 12 years!!!" I voted Libertarian the whole time... AND I wrote letters... but I was dealing with other issues abroad..." That shuts them up... but other than that... they have nothing.

 

[1911er]

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gogodawgs I sent thepdf fileyou requested along with a couple others I thought you might like

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

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Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:

Never vote "D".... and only vote "R" if they are a Ron Paul clone.... the two party apparatus has screwed the American people.

Walking contradiction anyone?

You are so diluted in this partisan political BS it must be shooting out of your ears. It is definately shooting out of your finger tips.

Listen...if you are going to pose as some Independent or middle grounder you must first start by not making statements as what is represented above. Thank you for proving my point Washintonian_For_Liberty (whatever liberty might mean to you). Keep in mind your fantasy of liberty is not unique, we all have our own little idea of "liberty.'

 

[Washintonian_For_Liberty]

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Sylvia Plath wrote:

Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:

Never vote "D".... and only vote "R" if they are a Ron Paul clone.... the two party apparatus has screwed the American people.

Walking contradiction anyone?

You are so diluted in this partisan political BS it must be shooting out of your ears. It is definately shooting out of your finger tips.

Listen...if you are going to pose as some Independent or middle grounder you must first start by not making statements as what is represented above. Thank you for proving my point Washintonian_For_Liberty (whatever liberty might mean to you). Keep in mind your fantasy of liberty is not unique, we all have our own little idea of "liberty.'

Listen lady... if that's what you really are... If you knew anything about Ron Paul as a Republican, then you'd know he's not a Party Line guy... which means what I said is not a contradiction.

And Liberty is quite extensive... and scares most people because it means that they're really going to have to ratchet up their own personal responsibility. It's why Liberals "HATE" Liberty. I have no "Fantasy" of Liberty... I have knowledge of how Liberty has been enumerated in our founding documents and how our founders defined Liberty. Your kind are constantly trying to obfuscate the debate by pillorying your opponent with logical fallacy arguments.

Liberty by definition means freedom from arbitrary controls, rules, ordinances and laws which restrict a person's free will. And the worst kind of Liberty stealing controls, rules ordinances and laws are those that are claimed to be created for our own good and protection under the assumption that we cannot do it ourselves.

The Republicanism that I support is the Republicanism that is enumerated in our Constitution, not the Party you know today as the Republican Party. Ron Paul, a true Republican as were Jefferson, Madison, Adams (Samuel) and Franklin, holds that our Republic is our only hope for the true preservation of Liberty, and that if we devolve into something like a Western European Socialist Democracy... we will forever lose our Liberty. Dr Franklin said it best when he wrote "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Every Liberal/Progressive Democrat policy is in a sense, a relinquishment of Liberty for the promise of Security.... and as implied by our founders, those who desire this deserve neither security or Liberty.

Which side do you come down on?

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

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Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:

Listen lady... if that's what you really are

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

I am a dyke, so no, I am not a lady. Sounds like you have a hard time dealing with women who have an opinion. Deal with it!

As for Ron Paul--I wouldn't vote for that over the hill shaky voiced physically fragile looking carteresque if he was the only one on the ticket. I do have to say in this instance, thank God for the two party system.

I seen no "essential liberty" being given up. Must be another one of those perspective things again.

 

[Norman]

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Ladies and Gentlemen, you are polluting this thread. Take it to personal messages, or exchange phone numbers. This thread was about the Rally in Olympia in regards to the second amendment, not party-line voting, fringe politicians, or sexual orientation-style.

Thank you

Norm

 

[gsx1138]

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Sylvia Plath wrote:

Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:

Listen lady... if that's what you really are

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

I am a dyke, so no, I am not a lady. Sounds like you have a hard time dealing with women who have an opinion. Deal with it!

You're dutch?

As for Ron Paul--I wouldn't vote for that over the hill shaky voiced physically fragile looking carteresque if he was the only one on the ticket. I do have to say in this instance, thank God for the two party system.

I don't think ad hominem attacks toward a man who is for equal rights for everyone is really needed. Sure, some of his policy ideas seem strange but it's nothing to get worked up over.

I seen no "essential liberty" being given up. Must be another one of those perspective things again.

I think the real test for the tea party is if they will hold Republican Presidents as accountable as they do Obama. I agree it's a timing issue. The TEA party idea was formed because of Bush and his spending. My worry is that the GOP will get too buddy buddy and try to influence tea party members.

My bad, I just jumped on the train derailing topic didn't I?

Sooo, how about that rally?

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

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gsx1138 wrote:

I think the real test for the tea party is if they will hold Republican Presidents as accountable as they do Obama. I agree it's a timing issue. The TEA party idea was formed because of Bush and his spending. My worry is that the GOP will get too buddy buddy and try to influence tea party members.

My bad, I just jumped on the train derailing topic didn't I?

Sooo, how about that rally?

If someone wants to offend me they should call me un-dyke-like.

I wish I could have taken my family to the rally. 2nd Amendment gatherrings are always nice. The kids like them too, just never any kids around other than mine.

You derailed the topic back onto the original topic, thanks.

 

[gogodawgs]

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Sylvia Plath wrote:

gsx1138 wrote:

I think the real test for the tea party is if they will hold Republican Presidents as accountable as they do Obama. I agree it's a timing issue. The TEA party idea was formed because of Bush and his spending. My worry is that the GOP will get too buddy buddy and try to influence tea party members.

My bad, I just jumped on the train derailing topic didn't I?

Sooo, how about that rally?

I wish I could have taken my family to the rally. 2nd Amendment gatherrings are always nice. The kids like them too, just never any kids around other than mine.

You derailed the topic back onto the original topic, thanks.

My 15 and 17yo daughters were at the event all day. 69Charger had two 11yo boys with him.